Randy Lerner

[peter w]

At his age Ellis needs to be acyive or he'll in all likelihood be 6th feet under. Villa is the only way he can do that. Of all the sh*t going on, however, not sure why he's a relevance any more. We're shit, Lerner isn't helping, the transfer policy was cocked right up, we defend like a barrister with amnesia, we're rotting from the inside and Ellis is neither here nor there.

[Stirchley Villain]

CTV, I have to take issue with you here re Doug.  I too am becoming old, something recently made me realise that I too am becoming infirm.  Yesterday cost me £100 for tickets for myself, my son and two grandchildren, £100 I could put to better use.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not on the breadline but, comparing Doug's attendance at VP, his infirmities notwithstanding is, frankly horseshit.  Doug has more money than me, a higher profile than me and is far and away more self-indulgent than me but, his love of Aston Villa is nowhere near or ever will be as good as mine.  Egotist or not, you decide.

Dave, all good points, but if some of the other posters are correct and Doug doesn't care about the Villa, only himself and money - why does he continue to attend when he really doesn't have to - its not like anyone gives a shit whether he is there or not...he's an irrelevance now, part of history. Does he go purely to look at the Doug Ellis Stand and massage his ego...possibly, but I would have to think there are easier ways for him to do that.

He goes because he has nothing else in his life.

Rubbish.

[dave.woodhall]

CTV, I have to take issue with you here re Doug.  I too am becoming old, something recently made me realise that I too am becoming infirm.  Yesterday cost me £100 for tickets for myself, my son and two grandchildren, £100 I could put to better use.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not on the breadline but, comparing Doug's attendance at VP, his infirmities notwithstanding is, frankly horseshit.  Doug has more money than me, a higher profile than me and is far and away more self-indulgent than me but, his love of Aston Villa is nowhere near or ever will be as good as mine.  Egotist or not, you decide.

Dave, all good points, but if some of the other posters are correct and Doug doesn't care about the Villa, only himself and money - why does he continue to attend when he really doesn't have to - its not like anyone gives a shit whether he is there or not...he's an irrelevance now, part of history. Does he go purely to look at the Doug Ellis Stand and massage his ego...possibly, but I would have to think there are easier ways for him to do that.

He goes because he has nothing else in his life.

Rubbish.

You have proof to back up your assumption I take it?

[Stirchley Villain]

Do you?

[saunders_heroes]

CTV, I have to take issue with you here re Doug.  I too am becoming old, something recently made me realise that I too am becoming infirm.  Yesterday cost me £100 for tickets for myself, my son and two grandchildren, £100 I could put to better use.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not on the breadline but, comparing Doug's attendance at VP, his infirmities notwithstanding is, frankly horseshit.  Doug has more money than me, a higher profile than me and is far and away more self-indulgent than me but, his love of Aston Villa is nowhere near or ever will be as good as mine.  Egotist or not, you decide.

Dave, all good points, but if some of the other posters are correct and Doug doesn't care about the Villa, only himself and money - why does he continue to attend when he really doesn't have to - its not like anyone gives a shit whether he is there or not...he's an irrelevance now, part of history. Does he go purely to look at the Doug Ellis Stand and massage his ego...possibly, but I would have to think there are easier ways for him to do that.

He goes because he has nothing else in his life.

Rubbish.

You have proof to back up your assumption I take it?

Have you got proof Ellis has nothing else in his life?

[dave.woodhall]

Do you?

Strangely enough, yes I do.

[ozzjim]

I still think Lerner has simply made mistakes and trusted the wrong people, or those he has brought in have done and that is why we are where we are. At the end of the day he has tried to sort out a better structure at the club, but its just not worked. Not sure what continually bashing him for the 300 or so million he has pumped in is actually trying to achieve.

[saunders_heroes]

Do you?

Strangely enough, yes I do.

Well go on then.

[Stirchley Villain]

If so, considering you can't stand the bloke, what would you know about his day to day activities? Whether he enjoys his garden...? what tv he watches..? Where he goes on holiday? Before answering please take into account his age, he isn't going to be scuba diving...

[Chris Harte]

I've no idea if Doug Ellis has nothing else in his life or not. However, I doubt that anyone on here could state with any certainty that he hasn't.

Edit: Unless, of course, any of us live next door to him and own a big pair of binoculars.

[saunders_heroes]

I still think Lerner has simply made mistakes and trusted the wrong people, or those he has brought in have done and that is why we are where we are. At the end of the day he has tried to sort out a better structure at the club, but its just not worked. Not sure what continually bashing him for the 300 or so million he has pumped in is actually trying to achieve.

You can have any structure you like at the club, but if you're gonna run the club on a shoe string you're gonna be in trouble, and boy are we in trouble.

[Clampy]

I still think Lerner has simply made mistakes and trusted the wrong people, or those he has brought in have done and that is why we are where we are. At the end of the day he has tried to sort out a better structure at the club, but its just not worked. Not sure what continually bashing him for the 300 or so million he has pumped in is actually trying to achieve.

You can have any structure you like at the club, but if you're gonna run the club on a shoe string you're gonna be in trouble, and boy are we in trouble.

Do you think Leicester are run on a shoe string compared to ours?

[dave.woodhall]

Do you?

Strangely enough, yes I do.

Well go on then.

There's the games when he's arrived at the ground desperate for someone to talk to, then his face has lit up when one of his mates arrives. The interview he gave a year or so after he sold up when he said it was the worst thing he'd ever done. Or there's the times I've been told about - and I'm not going to break confidences or say things that I feel should't be aired publicly; you can believe me or not, I couldn't care less one way or the other - that show for all his money and for everything he's done in his life he's a very lonely man.

[ozzjim]

Or Palace, or any one of about 10 teams above us. The shoestring argument is totally spurious. Poor decisions from him as a chairman on manager selection and successive managers on player purchases are the issue, not the amount spent. We have spent enough money to compete better than 5 points from 14 games.

[saunders_heroes]

I still think Lerner has simply made mistakes and trusted the wrong people, or those he has brought in have done and that is why we are where we are. At the end of the day he has tried to sort out a better structure at the club, but its just not worked. Not sure what continually bashing him for the 300 or so million he has pumped in is actually trying to achieve.

You can have any structure you like at the club, but if you're gonna run the club on a shoe string you're gonna be in trouble, and boy are we in trouble.

Do you think Leicester are run on a shoe string compared to ours?

Have they had 5 years of cutbacks behind them?