Randy Lerner

[hipkiss92]

Didn't Makoun complete 100 passes in his debut against Man U? I imagine we struggle to do that as a team now.

[Villa in Denmark]

Agree. He was a terrible manager with a good, no very good squad. GMAC held it together ultimately

He was also the manager that had to contend with, up to that point at least, an almost unprecedented injury list. He was such a terrible manager that he managed to coax 75 minutes of Bannan and Hogg running rings around Man Utd until they ran out of steam.
We'll never know, but I'd hazard a guess that the injury list clearing, the squad starting to get what Houllier was trying to implement along with Dunne, Collins and whoever else was playing who can be the biggest wanker deciding to play nicely once he wasn't at Bodymoor, had as much, if not more to do with the upturn in form than anything McAlister did. Especially when you consider his achievements, or rather lack of, whenever he's had the manager's role.

[pauliewalnuts]

And who "raved" about Makoun lol ??
He came in wore a Pringle at his presser, and that was about it, talk about a fish out of water on the pitch . Where did he end up and for how much ? What was he £5m in sold for £1m ?? Inside a year. Brilliant . In fact "visionary"

I don't expect you'd remember, you were banned at the time.

For reasons we're all starting to remember.

[SamTheMouse]

Houllier's performance during that season was poor taken in isolation. But the key thing is direction, and under him we did appear to have it. He came in and was understandably aghast at what he felt was the ridiculously outdated approach that O'Neill had fostered at the club, with the drinking culture part and parcel of it.

He naturally sought to change all that. If he'd been more pragmatic, maybe he'd have played it more softly and given himself a season to start shipping out the dead wood, but I can't really blame him for losing his rag with wasters like Dunne and Collins.

You could see the plan, we were linked with players which clearly seemed designed to fit in with that vision, and regardless of how the team was performing, most of us are well disposed to managers provided they seem to have a clue what they want to do. That's why we all lost patience with Sherwood so quickly.

I didn't much like Houllier - I don't think many people do, he's a spiky character who tends to rub people up the wrong way. And it's not just in England either, he's widely detested in France. But he's probably the most intelligent, modern-thinking manager we've had for many years.

[LeeB]

One way he 'lost the dressing room' was by asking them to stop drinking so much and do a bit more jogging.

And asked the defenders to run up and down a bit instead of stopping on the edge of the box to watch Petrov run around doing three peoples jobs.

[silhillvilla]

And who "raved" about Makoun lol ??
He came in wore a Pringle at his presser, and that was about it, talk about a fish out of water on the pitch . Where did he end up and for how much ? What was he £5m in sold for £1m ?? Inside a year. Brilliant . In fact "visionary"

I don't expect you'd remember, you were banned at the time.

Talk me through this one , Makoun signed For £6.2m , loaned out within a year for 2 years and ended up leaving for nothing , that's £0 .
If that's GED's "vision" then it's sublime .

[bobdylan]

Without Milner we were not a top six side.

Also on Warnock, he'd been awful since the cup final, mistake after mistake, epitomised by the daft penalty he gave away at Man City when we were winning. Vile little shit bag too.

Ok I'd agree that without Milner even with Bent and Walker for half a season we were not a top 6 side, but there's no way we were a side that should have been flirting with relegation.  If we'd have dropped into mid table it would have been ok but to plunge as low as we did and treat the FA Cup with disdain was too much for me.

We were that low because we lost our entire coaching staff days before the season started, took over a month to replace them and then had the worst injury list in living memory. Despite that we finished in the top half, and before anyone says it was a false position, nobody ever says the same about 2002-03, when three more goals would have seen us finish eighth instead of sixteenth.

We finished top half because under Gary Mac we beat Liverpool and Arsenal in our last 2 games, can't give Houllier credit for that, otherwise we'd have finished around 15/16th and there's no way McLeish would have had us that low the following season if he'd still got Young and Downing in the team.

We finished ninth because eleven clubs had a worse record than us, under three managers.

True and arguably the 3 most accomplished wins came when Houllier was not in charge, I dread to think where we'd have finished without those 9 precious points.

[Clampy]

And who "raved" about Makoun lol ??
He came in wore a Pringle at his presser, and that was about it, talk about a fish out of water on the pitch . Where did he end up and for how much ? What was he £5m in sold for £1m ?? Inside a year. Brilliant . In fact "visionary"

I don't expect you'd remember, you were banned at the time.

Talk me through this one , Makoun signed For £6.2m , loaned out within a year for 2 years and ended up leaving for nothing , that's £0 .
If that's GED's "vision" then it's sublime .

So was Reo-Coker and countless others. It happens.

[PeterWithesShin]

Signings don't work out for a number of reasons. It happens, and using hindsight means none of us would ever make a mistake. Doesn't make the thinking behind the signing wrong. As I said, Makoun was getting a lot of praise on here.

[Clampy]

And who "raved" about Makoun lol ??
He came in wore a Pringle at his presser, and that was about it, talk about a fish out of water on the pitch . Where did he end up and for how much ? What was he £5m in sold for £1m ?? Inside a year. Brilliant . In fact "visionary"

I don't expect you'd remember, you were banned at the time.

Talk me through this one , Makoun signed For £6.2m , loaned out within a year for 2 years and ended up leaving for nothing , that's £0 .
If that's GED's "vision" then it's sublime .

I do smile when you knock Houiller's vision whilst insisting that the man you wanted to replace Sherwood was Tony Pulis.

[silhillvilla]

And who "raved" about Makoun lol ??
He came in wore a Pringle at his presser, and that was about it, talk about a fish out of water on the pitch . Where did he end up and for how much ? What was he £5m in sold for £1m ?? Inside a year. Brilliant . In fact "visionary"

I don't expect you'd remember, you were banned at the time.

Talk me through this one , Makoun signed For £6.2m , loaned out within a year for 2 years and ended up leaving for nothing , that's £0 .
If that's GED's "vision" then it's sublime .

So was Reo-Coker and countless others. It happens.

Lol. The generic "get out of jail" response.
You scoundrel you .

[Clampy]

And who "raved" about Makoun lol ??
He came in wore a Pringle at his presser, and that was about it, talk about a fish out of water on the pitch . Where did he end up and for how much ? What was he £5m in sold for £1m ?? Inside a year. Brilliant . In fact "visionary"

I don't expect you'd remember, you were banned at the time.

Talk me through this one , Makoun signed For £6.2m , loaned out within a year for 2 years and ended up leaving for nothing , that's £0 .
If that's GED's "vision" then it's sublime .

So was Reo-Coker and countless others. It happens.

Lol. The generic "get out of jail" response.
You scoundrel you .

What's 'get out of jail' about it? It's true isn't it?

[dave.woodhall]

Without Milner we were not a top six side.

Also on Warnock, he'd been awful since the cup final, mistake after mistake, epitomised by the daft penalty he gave away at Man City when we were winning. Vile little shit bag too.

Ok I'd agree that without Milner even with Bent and Walker for half a season we were not a top 6 side, but there's no way we were a side that should have been flirting with relegation.  If we'd have dropped into mid table it would have been ok but to plunge as low as we did and treat the FA Cup with disdain was too much for me.

We were that low because we lost our entire coaching staff days before the season started, took over a month to replace them and then had the worst injury list in living memory. Despite that we finished in the top half, and before anyone says it was a false position, nobody ever says the same about 2002-03, when three more goals would have seen us finish eighth instead of sixteenth.

We finished top half because under Gary Mac we beat Liverpool and Arsenal in our last 2 games, can't give Houllier credit for that, otherwise we'd have finished around 15/16th and there's no way McLeish would have had us that low the following season if he'd still got Young and Downing in the team.

We finished ninth because eleven clubs had a worse record than us, under three managers.

True and arguably the 3 most accomplished wins came when Houllier was not in charge, I dread to think where we'd have finished without those 9 precious points.

Same place as we would without nine of the points he got us but this really is going round in circles. I think one of the reasons we improved was that both men went back to basics and shelved the long-term goal in favour of short-term results.

[silhillvilla]

Signings don't work out for a number of reasons. It happens, and using hindsight means none of us would ever make a mistake. Doesn't make the thinking behind the signing wrong. As I said, Makoun was getting a lot of praise on here.

So he wasn't "rave" 

[PeterWithesShin]

Signings don't work out for a number of reasons. It happens, and using hindsight means none of us would ever make a mistake. Doesn't make the thinking behind the signing wrong. As I said, Makoun was getting a lot of praise on here.

So he wasn't "rave" 

At least try and speak English. Some praised him, some raved about him. It really isn't difficult. But as usual you stick to avoiding the points raised that you can't answer, or don't like the answer to.