Randy Lerner

[dave.woodhall]

It was mismanagement on several levels. Quickly lost the dressing room. Poor results. Poor performances , poor signings - see Makoun aswell .
This "vision" ?? It wasn't a good one. Like I said before though, health wise he wasn't a well man so He needs some slack in that respect.

Is that the same Makoun loads on here were raving about?

I still want to know how Bradley was a bad loan signing after he had held his own in the Dutch, German and Italian divisions. Or what we should have done instead of signing Pires as we were already reduced to using Hogg, Herd etc because of injuries.

Or what was so bad about a striker who scored in every other start until a career-wrecking injury and a loan right-back who gave us strength in a position where it was needed. 

[silhillvilla]

It was mismanagement on several levels. Quickly lost the dressing room. Poor results. Poor performances , poor signings - see Makoun aswell .
This "vision" ?? It wasn't a good one. Like I said before though, health wise he wasn't a well man so He needs some slack in that respect.

What part of his 'vision' didn't you like?

Mostly the bit where we kept losing and weren't playing well even with a really good squad. Add in the poor signings and his strange sound bites and distanced aloofness. Other than that I can't fault the guy.

[Clampy]

It was mismanagement on several levels. Quickly lost the dressing room. Poor results. Poor performances , poor signings - see Makoun aswell .
This "vision" ?? It wasn't a good one. Like I said before though, health wise he wasn't a well man so He needs some slack in that respect.

What part of his 'vision' didn't you like?

Mostly the bit where we kept losing and weren't playing well even with a really good squad. Add in the poor signings and his strange sound bites and distanced aloofness. Other than that I can't fault the guy.

I see the only 'poor signings' you don't mention are Darren Bent and Kyle Walker.

[four fornicholl]

It was mismanagement on several levels. Quickly lost the dressing room. Poor results. Poor performances , poor signings - see Makoun aswell .
This "vision" ?? It wasn't a good one. Like I said before though, health wise he wasn't a well man so He needs some slack in that respect.

Is that the same Makoun loads on here were raving about?

I still want to know how Bradley was a bad loan signing after he had held his own in the Dutch, German and Italian divisions. Or what we should have done instead of signing Pires as we were already reduced to using Hogg, Herd etc because of injuries.

iimc he cost us a fkn fortune

[bobdylan]

Without Milner we were not a top six side.

Also on Warnock, he'd been awful since the cup final, mistake after mistake, epitomised by the daft penalty he gave away at Man City when we were winning. Vile little shit bag too.

Ok I'd agree that without Milner even with Bent and Walker for half a season we were not a top 6 side, but there's no way we were a side that should have been flirting with relegation.  If we'd have dropped into mid table it would have been ok but to plunge as low as we did and treat the FA Cup with disdain was too much for me.

We were that low because we lost our entire coaching staff days before the season started, took over a month to replace them and then had the worst injury list in living memory. Despite that we finished in the top half, and before anyone says it was a false position, nobody ever says the same about 2002-03, when three more goals would have seen us finish eighth instead of sixteenth.

We finished top half because under Gary Mac we beat Liverpool and Arsenal in our last 2 games, can't give Houllier credit for that, otherwise we'd have finished around 15/16th and there's no way McLeish would have had us that low the following season if he'd still got Young and Downing in the team.

[dave.woodhall]

Without Milner we were not a top six side.

Also on Warnock, he'd been awful since the cup final, mistake after mistake, epitomised by the daft penalty he gave away at Man City when we were winning. Vile little shit bag too.

Ok I'd agree that without Milner even with Bent and Walker for half a season we were not a top 6 side, but there's no way we were a side that should have been flirting with relegation.  If we'd have dropped into mid table it would have been ok but to plunge as low as we did and treat the FA Cup with disdain was too much for me.

We were that low because we lost our entire coaching staff days before the season started, took over a month to replace them and then had the worst injury list in living memory. Despite that we finished in the top half, and before anyone says it was a false position, nobody ever says the same about 2002-03, when three more goals would have seen us finish eighth instead of sixteenth.

We finished top half because under Gary Mac we beat Liverpool and Arsenal in our last 2 games, can't give Houllier credit for that, otherwise we'd have finished around 15/16th and there's no way McLeish would have had us that low the following season if he'd still got Young and Downing in the team.

We finished ninth because eleven clubs had a worse record than us, under three managers.

[silhillvilla]

Without Milner we were not a top six side.

Also on Warnock, he'd been awful since the cup final, mistake after mistake, epitomised by the daft penalty he gave away at Man City when we were winning. Vile little shit bag too.

Ok I'd agree that without Milner even with Bent and Walker for half a season we were not a top 6 side, but there's no way we were a side that should have been flirting with relegation.  If we'd have dropped into mid table it would have been ok but to plunge as low as we did and treat the FA Cup with disdain was too much for me.

We were that low because we lost our entire coaching staff days before the season started, took over a month to replace them and then had the worst injury list in living memory. Despite that we finished in the top half, and before anyone says it was a false position, nobody ever says the same about 2002-03, when three more goals would have seen us finish eighth instead of sixteenth.

You forget to mention, when GED went off ill we were what 16/17th ? Then GMac came in and we went on a decent run and ended up 9th with players performing better, shape , structure and momentum to the performances with wins against some of the better sides.

[dave.woodhall]

Without Milner we were not a top six side.

Also on Warnock, he'd been awful since the cup final, mistake after mistake, epitomised by the daft penalty he gave away at Man City when we were winning. Vile little shit bag too.

Ok I'd agree that without Milner even with Bent and Walker for half a season we were not a top 6 side, but there's no way we were a side that should have been flirting with relegation.  If we'd have dropped into mid table it would have been ok but to plunge as low as we did and treat the FA Cup with disdain was too much for me.

We were that low because we lost our entire coaching staff days before the season started, took over a month to replace them and then had the worst injury list in living memory. Despite that we finished in the top half, and before anyone says it was a false position, nobody ever says the same about 2002-03, when three more goals would have seen us finish eighth instead of sixteenth.

You forget to mention, when GED went off ill we were what 16/17th ? Then GMac came in and we went on a decent run and ended up 9th with players performing better, shape , structure and momentum to the performances with wins against some of the better sides.

I'll say to you what I said above. Now, what exactly was wrong with those signings? Take as long as you like to answer. 

[PeterWithesShin]

There's lots of seasons where if we'd won 2 less games we'd have finished lower. I never get why that season seems unique in that regard.

[PeterWithesShin]

It was mismanagement on several levels. Quickly lost the dressing room. Poor results. Poor performances , poor signings - see Makoun aswell .
This "vision" ?? It wasn't a good one. Like I said before though, health wise he wasn't a well man so He needs some slack in that respect.

Is that the same Makoun loads on here were raving about?

I still want to know how Bradley was a bad loan signing after he had held his own in the Dutch, German and Italian top divisions. Or what we should have done instead of signing Pires as we were already reduced to using Hogg, Herd etc because of injuries.

Still want to know!

[silhillvilla]

It was mismanagement on several levels. Quickly lost the dressing room. Poor results. Poor performances , poor signings - see Makoun aswell .
This "vision" ?? It wasn't a good one. Like I said before though, health wise he wasn't a well man so He needs some slack in that respect.

Is that the same Makoun loads on here were raving about?

I still want to know how Bradley was a bad loan signing after he had held his own in the Dutch, German and Italian top divisions. Or what we should have done instead of signing Pires as we were already reduced to using Hogg, Herd etc because of injuries.

Still want to know!

They were both really poor for us.

[Clampy]

I liked the look of Makoun. He was probably one who needed a season to settle in though.

[silhillvilla]

And who "raved" about Makoun lol ??
He came in wore a Pringle at his presser, and that was about it, talk about a fish out of water on the pitch . Where did he end up and for how much ? What was he £5m in sold for £1m ?? Inside a year. Brilliant . In fact "visionary"

[PeterWithesShin]

So who should we have signed instead of Pires? And do you think that signing a player on loan that has done well in 3 other major European top divisions is a good or bad idea? No, well they didn't work out, was the thinking behind either LOAN signing, good or bad?

[PeterWithesShin]

And who "raved" about Makoun lol ??
He came in wore a Pringle at his presser, and that was about it, talk about a fish out of water on the pitch . Where did he end up and for how much ? What was he £5m in sold for £1m ?? Inside a year. Brilliant . In fact "visionary"

I don't expect you'd remember, you were banned at the time.