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Offline Hookeysmith

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #315 on: October 23, 2015, 12:48:11 PM »
We have people making decision that have experience within the game at a high level and within a very good club like Arsenal, with clear knowledge of continental players.

Is it out of the realms of possibility to conclude that their knowledge might extend to managers too?

Like others have said, and I like the cut of Boozeys post, I get the impression that the system that has been implemented is tailored made for somebody from Europe or further afield and that is the route they will take.


Tom Fox was at Arsenal between 2009 - 14 so during that time it, as it is now, was a total autocracy with Wenger so very much doubt he had to plan or look for a new manager at any point.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #316 on: October 23, 2015, 12:57:31 PM »
That's not the point.

Fox, Reilly and Armstadt all have experience of working within football and have demonstrated a knowledge of the European game.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #317 on: October 23, 2015, 01:06:29 PM »
We have people making decision that have experience within the game at a high level and within a very good club like Arsenal, with clear knowledge of continental players.

Is it out of the realms of possibility to conclude that their knowledge might extend to managers too?

I think this is what I'm basing a lot of hope on. Something about this summer felt very different; not the normal Villa signings. For example, non of the players we bought scored against us last season...

I think most of us where excited by the signings. Who's to say we won't be excited by the next manager?

These aren't the same guys that picked TSM.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #318 on: October 23, 2015, 01:13:14 PM »
We have people making decision that have experience within the game at a high level and within a very good club like Arsenal, with clear knowledge of continental players.

Is it out of the realms of possibility to conclude that their knowledge might extend to managers too?

I think this is what I'm basing a lot of hope on. Something about this summer felt very different; not the normal Villa signings. For example, non of the players we bought scored against us last season...

I think most of us where excited by the signings. Who's to say we won't be excited by the next manager?

These aren't the same guys that picked TSM.

Something felt different?
Didn't Sherwood just spend the money generated from sales and the usual £8 or £9m on top?

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #319 on: October 23, 2015, 01:13:32 PM »
We have people making decision that have experience within the game at a high level and within a very good club like Arsenal, with clear knowledge of continental players.

Is it out of the realms of possibility to conclude that their knowledge might extend to managers too?

I agree with this.

It is a new set up, and one of the things the new set up is doubtlessly supposed to do is manage transition from one manager to another. Previously, we used to have to start all over again. Now, we won't.

Look at the likes of Southampton and Swansea. That's one reason they're doing so well. At Swansea, it won't just be because of Rodgers or Laudrup or Martinez or Monk, it will be largely because in the course of having those managers (with quite a high churn rate, BTW) they didn't have to start all over again every time one of them fucked off or got the sack.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #320 on: October 23, 2015, 01:16:15 PM »
We have people making decision that have experience within the game at a high level and within a very good club like Arsenal, with clear knowledge of continental players.

Is it out of the realms of possibility to conclude that their knowledge might extend to managers too?

I think this is what I'm basing a lot of hope on. Something about this summer felt very different; not the normal Villa signings. For example, non of the players we bought scored against us last season...

I think most of us where excited by the signings. Who's to say we won't be excited by the next manager?

These aren't the same guys that picked TSM.

Something felt different?
Didn't Sherwood just spend the money generated from sales and the usual £8 or £9m on top?

The difference is not the amount but the type of signing surely?

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #321 on: October 23, 2015, 01:19:39 PM »
An injection of money is the thing that will change our fortunes not a change in set up. Financial cutbacks over nearly 6 seasons is the cause of our decline.
Top managers and players will go where the money is. It's always been the same.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #322 on: October 23, 2015, 01:20:32 PM »
We have people making decision that have experience within the game at a high level and within a very good club like Arsenal, with clear knowledge of continental players.

Is it out of the realms of possibility to conclude that their knowledge might extend to managers too?

I think this is what I'm basing a lot of hope on. Something about this summer felt very different; not the normal Villa signings. For example, non of the players we bought scored against us last season...

I think most of us where excited by the signings. Who's to say we won't be excited by the next manager?

These aren't the same guys that picked TSM.

Something felt different?
Didn't Sherwood just spend the money generated from sales and the usual £8 or £9m on top?

The difference is not the amount but the type of signing surely?

You honestly been that impressed by what you've seen from them so far?

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #323 on: October 23, 2015, 01:21:48 PM »
As I recall, and anyone else who was there feel free to correct me, when Tom Fox spoke at the supporter's trust meeting just after Sherwood was appointed, he said something to the effect that all clubs have a shortlist of alternatives in place in the event that a new manager is needed. It's not a policy that swings into action only when a replacement is being sought, it's a matter of course. Boozey's scenario is entirely plausible based on this I think.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #324 on: October 23, 2015, 01:22:23 PM »
We have people making decision that have experience within the game at a high level and within a very good club like Arsenal, with clear knowledge of continental players.

Is it out of the realms of possibility to conclude that their knowledge might extend to managers too?

I think this is what I'm basing a lot of hope on. Something about this summer felt very different; not the normal Villa signings. For example, non of the players we bought scored against us last season...

I think most of us where excited by the signings. Who's to say we won't be excited by the next manager?

These aren't the same guys that picked TSM.

Something felt different?
Didn't Sherwood just spend the money generated from sales and the usual £8 or £9m on top?

It seems Sherwood didn't spend any of the money...or at least that what we've been led to believe over the last few weeks.

Anyway, I was more referring to how the money was spent, rather than how much was spent. As in the players we bought were well regarded and from European leagues. Rather than ones that had a good game against us the year before.

Maybe I'm mis-remebering, but it felt like we were quite a positive bunch when the season started.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #325 on: October 23, 2015, 01:34:30 PM »
A W16 engine when stripped and separated in a disorganised fashion won't achieve the extreme locomotion that you desire, even if the individual parts look quite shiny and interesting.

That's how I see our players at the moment; I like the look of most of them, but they are so badly organised, with no decernable way of attacking or defending, that it doesn't matter how good they are.

Although our players probably won't purr as majestically as the W16 when put together.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #326 on: October 23, 2015, 01:40:11 PM »
A W16 engine when stripped and separated in a disorganised fashion won't achieve the extreme locomotion that you desire, even if the individual parts look quite shiny and interesting.

That's how I see our players at the moment; I like the look of most of them, but they are so badly organised, with no decernable way of attacking or defending, that it doesn't matter how good they are.

Although our players probably won't purr as majestically as the W16 when put together.

Our engine shudders along like chitty chitty bang bang.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #327 on: October 23, 2015, 01:41:14 PM »
A W16 engine when stripped and separated in a disorganised fashion won't achieve the extreme locomotion that you desire, even if the individual parts look quite shiny and interesting.

That's how I see our players at the moment; I like the look of most of them, but they are so badly organised, with no decernable way of attacking or defending, that it doesn't matter how good they are.

Although our players probably won't purr as majestically as the W16 when put together.

Our engine shudders along like chitty chitty bang bang.

Which means with the right operator it could fly...

Offline ClaretAndBlueBlood

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #328 on: October 23, 2015, 01:56:12 PM »
We have people making decision that have experience within the game at a high level and within a very good club like Arsenal, with clear knowledge of continental players.

Is it out of the realms of possibility to conclude that their knowledge might extend to managers too?

I think this is what I'm basing a lot of hope on. Something about this summer felt very different; not the normal Villa signings. For example, non of the players we bought scored against us last season...

I think most of us where excited by the signings. Who's to say we won't be excited by the next manager?

These aren't the same guys that picked TSM.

Something felt different?
Didn't Sherwood just spend the money generated from sales and the usual £8 or £9m on top?

The difference is not the amount but the type of signing surely?

You honestly been that impressed by what you've seen from them so far?

I think most of the players have shown promise to varying degrees

Amavi has been the standout signing
Gana has had a few good games, although seems to be having a dip at the moment
Gestede has looked quite limited overall but is good in the box with his head as long as he is running onto the ball
Ayew has shown glimpses in 2 or 3 games
Traore looks very raw but exciting
Veretout looks off the pace but is improving and has a lovely first touch
Richards has been largely impressive despite being caught out of position a few times
Lescott has looked like a baggies reject unfortunately
Crespo is difficult to comment on, improved as the game went on against Stoke

Some of them need patience shown which a lot of us don't always give new signings, they may or may not come off but only time will tell

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #329 on: October 23, 2015, 01:56:44 PM »
A W16 engine when stripped and separated in a disorganised fashion won't achieve the extreme locomotion that you desire, even if the individual parts look quite shiny and interesting.

That's how I see our players at the moment; I like the look of most of them, but they are so badly organised, with no decernable way of attacking or defending, that it doesn't matter how good they are.

Although our players probably won't purr as majestically as the W16 when put together.

Our engine shudders along like chitty chitty bang bang.

Which means with the right operator it could fly...

Which would be truly scrumptious.

 


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