This is the season...

[dave.woodhall]

Losing the Sunderland and Norwich games were the final nails in the coffin of our PL status.
Shocking state of affairs.

No they weren't.

[OzVilla]

Losing the Sunderland and Norwich games were the final nails in the coffin of our PL status.
Shocking state of affairs.

No they weren't.

Is this just pedantic Dave talking or are you saying you think there's a chance?

I agree that Norwich and Sunderland sealed our fate in seriousness but it was the Watford home match when I knew we were going. Since then I've been getting used to it. Those that wait for mathematical certainty are just deluding themselves Imo.

The home run against Swansea, Stoke, Sunderland, Albion and Watford (1 point) was where it really went wrong.

[Pete3206]

The plus point is we'll all have accepted our relegation by February/March so by the time we are down and when the end of the season comes it will be old news.

Let's just enjoy the rest of the season, let's sing our hearts out, be full of gallows humour and go down with our heads held high. Starting at the Albion Saturday, let's be willing to laugh at ourselves and take the piss, they won't know what to do if we're self-deprecating about ourselves.

Accept it if you want. I'll accept it when it's mathematically impossible. That might not be until April.

[dave.woodhall]

Losing the Sunderland and Norwich games were the final nails in the coffin of our PL status.
Shocking state of affairs.

No they weren't.

Is this just pedantic Dave talking or are you saying you think there's a chance?

I agree that Norwich and Sunderland sealed our fate in seriousness but it was the Watford home match when I knew we were going. Since then I've been getting used to it. Those that wait for mathematical certainty are just deluding themselves Imo.

The home run against Swansea, Stoke, Sunderland, Albion and Watford (1 point) was where it really went wrong.

Of course there's a chance and although we're almost certain to go down I get pissed off with phrases like "deluding themselves" used against anyone who isn't prepared to accept defeat just yet.

[Chris Harte]

We're toast. I thought so after the Watford game, and while recent performances (West Ham, Palace and Leicester) have given me more faith in our team's ability to pick up points, the fact that the likes of Newcastle, Sunderland and now Swansea tonight are getting results just points to us having too much to do.

[ozzjim]

I think we are in a situation well beyond worrying or hoping results go for us. All we can do is try and find some form. If we manage to win 3-4 games in the next 6/7 to be back in touch then great. We look to have found a formula too late, which has hurt both league position and recruitment.

I do think though, that 40 points will not be safe this season. I reckon 2 will be adrift (most likely us and Sunderland) and 2 will fight to the last. The tough thing is Norwich are actually pretty rubbish and we gifted them 3 points on the back of playing well against West Ham. Those 2 games are the real kickers for me at the moment. If you put us on 15 and them on 21 I would fancy our chances now.

[ChicagoLion]

Losing the Sunderland and Norwich games were the final nails in the coffin of our PL status.
Shocking state of affairs.

No they weren't.

when was it then?

[Lastfootstamper]

Losing the Sunderland and Norwich games were the final nails in the coffin of our PL status.
Shocking state of affairs.

No they weren't.

when was it then?

Are you from the future?

[Legion]

For me, the start was the 1-6 v Southampton last season. The catalyst was the 2-3 v Leicester this season. The final nail will be delivered well before May.

[PaulWinch again]

It occurred to me today, that with it being pretty likely that we're going down, I hope that as a club we've already engaged the core of players we want at the club. We should be making it clear they will be with us whatever happens next season.

[Villa in Denmark]

For me, the start was the 1-6 v Southampton last season. The catalyst was the 2-3 v Leicester this season. The final nail will be delivered well before May.

As is so often the case, nailed it in a couple of sentences, where I'd have used 6 paragraphs.

[aj2k77]

Well I think it's pretty obvious the squad needs another summer of being completely gutted and huge changes. I really don't want to see any free loaders next season, pay them off if needs be.

[saunders_heroes]

Surprised so many posters on here have given up so early. Sure it's a long shot but we're still in January, it isn't April. Win back to back games and we could be back in the fight.

[PeterWithesShin]

Although it seems probable we will drop, i'm not giving up yet and I don't expect the players, manager, coaches etc to either.

[OzVilla]

It's not just us winning games that needs to happen though it's others losing them too. 

We're currently on our best run of the season and yet the gap to safety is as great as it's ever been, we're not gaining ground after some wins and draws.  Of course I know it's not mathematically certain we'll be relegated but common sense tells me we're gone.