This is the season...

[CT]

I still keep looking at the table and thinking if we beat Norwich and Sunderland we'll be right back in the mix.

...and then I remember we haven't won since August.

[Ads]

Thats confidence though. There is no well of past hope to draw from. Some people, including players need that and the longer it goes on the harder it becomes, until you do win and its infinitely easier to see just how and why we will win the next one.

[rob_bridge]

I still keep looking at the table and thinking if we beat Norwich and Sunderland we'll be right back in the mix.

...and then I remember we haven't won since August.

Indeed but we'll have to see. The bellend Sherwood (and Kevin Mac too) threw away too many relatively easy points.

The straw I clutch too is that other than Everton away we haven't been hammered and Everton had a game when everything clicked and when that happens, however infrequently, they are very good. In fact as good as anyone in the League

[oswald funkletrumpet]

I still keep looking at the table and thinking if we beat Norwich and Sunderland we'll be right back in the mix.

...and then I remember we haven't won since August.

exactly

but dont worry everything will be okay when we sign quality players in january and win every other game

this time next year rodney

[myf]

I fear Norwich and Sunderland will brush us aside on their own turf with decent support behind them.

Yes they are both Barcelona at home. Not much point in spending club's money and sending the team out there we may as well fax them both 3 points each.

what has barca got to do with it?  We've been brushed aside by most of the league teams in 2015. I just feel that norwich and Sunderland will be far hungrier than our lot. We all know we're lacking in quality but the fight/passion/aggression just isnt there either

[olaftab]

So o take it you were not at the match today? Or watched the second half against Newcastle last week?

[Steve67]

Positives have been hard to come by this season but here are a few: unbeaten in two away games, we have won both second halves of our last two games and not conceded. Ayew and Veretout are playing well. One more game to play before we can sign someone.  It'll take a miracle but it starts with small positives. The Norwich and Sunderland matches are season makers or breakers. Huge games but we have something to build on.

[andyh]

So o take it you were not at the match today? Or watched the second half against Newcastle last week?

We have taken two draws against 2 teams every bit as shit as us.
One of them at home, with half a dozen regulars missing.

I'm not getting too excited.

[four fornicholl]

I still keep looking at the table and thinking if we beat Norwich and Sunderland we'll be right back in the mix.

...and then I remember we haven't won since August.

exactly

but dont worry everything will be okay when we sign quality players in january and win every other game

this time next year rodney

know what you've been watching this weekend oswald

[olaftab]

No one's getting excited but we do need to keep a balance view on us and other strugglers.

[Dave]

So o take it you were not at the match today? Or watched the second half against Newcastle last week?

We have taken two draws against 2 teams every bit as shit as us.
One of them at home, with half a dozen regulars missing.

I'm not getting too excited.

Nobody's getting excited, but he's right in what he says.

I don't think that anyone who watched today's match would have thought that the players were lacking "fight/passion/aggression". Which is what he was disagreeing with.

We'll almost certainly go down this season, but saying that it's because we're lacking the above it just lazy tabloid nonsense.

[aj2k77]

We gave it a right go today but the quality just isn't there. Compared to a few months ago we look kind of organised now and there is a bit of shape but we are hampered by severe lack of quality.

[andyh]

I'm not being argumentative when I say I'm not getting excited.
It's just that despite the obvious improvements, we still look no closer to winning a game than we did 10, 5 or 1 week ago.

Our biggest problem by a million miles is the lack of a top quality forward.

For me and being realistic about where we are and what will be available to us, I think we could do worse than bringing back Crouch in January

[Dave]

I'm not being argumentative when I say I'm not getting excited.

I didn't think you were being argumentative, I think you were just missing his point.

He's not getting excited. I'm not getting excited. Nobody's getting excited. He's just disagreeing that we're where we are because the players aren't showing enough "pashun 'n' grit" compared to the likes of Norwich and Sunderland.

[OzVilla]

Add it to the list. Home games against Sunderland, Stoke, Albion, Swansea, Watford and now West Ham all on very poor runs when we played them = 2 points. Says it all.