This is the season...

[QuintonVilla]

We'll lose the next two and have 5 points from 16 games. Newcastle have Liverpool and Spurs next so they should lose both aswell. Then of course it's Newcastle v Villa, we'll both be cut adrift and that game will be absolutely massive.

[seanthevillan]

I don't know why, because every time I've seen us this season we've been awful, but I still think that we could get out of this. There are obvious problems with the squad, but enough talent to be doing better than we are.

Completely get why some fans think we have no chance, but I have visions of one win sparking a run - is that completely insane?

And I've been getting stick from a Cov fan at work saying we'll be in the same league next season...

[Rigadon]

I don't know why, because every time I've seen us this season we've been awful, but I still think that we could get out of this. There are obvious problems with the squad, but enough talent to be doing better than we are.

Completely get why some fans think we have no chance, but I have visions of one win sparking a run - is that completely insane?

And I've been getting stick from a Cov fan at work saying we'll be in the same league next season...

It's not insane.  But massively improbable now.  Crucially, being adrift in 5 weeks time won't help us as we won't even be able to buy our way out (players won't come).  It's a bit of a perfect storm.

We have to pick up enough points (I'd say at least 9) from Southampton, Newcastle, West Ham and Norwich to be in contention when the transfer window rolls around to stand any chance of attracting some better (and by that I mean more effective in a scrap) players in Jan. 

Beat Southampton (they are a solid team, but not world beaters) and build from that.

 

[SoccerHQ]

This is the formula that will keep us up....

Southampton- draw
Newcastle- win
West Ham- win
Norwich- win
Palace- draw
Leicester- win
WBA- draw
Norwich- win
Stoke- draw
Everton- win
Spurs- draw
Swansea- win
Bournemouth- win
Southampton- draw
Watford- draw
Newcastle- win

Just totaled that up and that's 34 points which would take us to 39 points which would surely be more than enough. Infact you could probably scrub a draw or two out of that list and 37 points would probably be enough.

I've omitted the games we'll get nothing from e.g. Manchester games etc but you never know, everyone thought Man. City would win and they didn't so who's to say we won't do something random like Arsenal at home with all their injuries.

I'd probably subscribe to Ads opinion, it's possible but massively unlikely atm baring in mind we can barely even draw games currently.

We do need to get cracking though starting in Newcastle.

[tomd2103]

I don't know why, because every time I've seen us this season we've been awful, but I still think that we could get out of this. There are obvious problems with the squad, but enough talent to be doing better than we are.

Completely get why some fans think we have no chance, but I have visions of one win sparking a run - is that completely insane?

And I've been getting stick from a Cov fan at work saying we'll be in the same league next season...

It's not insane.  But massively improbable now.  Crucially, being adrift in 5 weeks time won't help us as we won't even be able to buy our way out (players won't come).  It's a bit of a perfect storm.

We have to pick up enough points (I'd say at least 9) from Southampton, Newcastle, West Ham and Norwich to be in contention when the transfer window rolls around to stand any chance of attracting some better (and by that I mean more effective in a scrap) players in Jan. 

Beat Southampton (they are a solid team, but not world beaters) and build from that.

I've gone from a feeling of resignation over the past week to one of defiance today,  Big ifs, but if we can get to January still in touch and Garde can pull off a couple of coups in the transfer market, we might just do it. 

[villadelph]

This is the formula that will keep us up....

Southampton- draw
Newcastle- win
West Ham- win
Norwich- win
Palace- draw
Leicester- win
WBA- draw
Norwich- win
Stoke- draw
Everton- win
Spurs- draw
Swansea- win
Bournemouth- win
Southampton- draw
Watford- draw
Newcastle- win

Just totaled that up and that's 34 points which would take us to 39 points which would surely be more than enough. Infact you could probably scrub a draw or two out of that list and 37 points would probably be enough.

I've omitted the games we'll get nothing from e.g. Manchester games etc but you never know, everyone thought Man. City would win and they didn't so who's to say we won't do something random like Arsenal at home with all their injuries.

I'd probably subscribe to Ads opinion, it's possible but massively unlikely atm baring in mind we can barely even draw games currently.

We do need to get cracking though starting in Newcastle.

When you break it down like that, we're doomed.

[Des Little]

We haven't won a game since the opening day. What makes anyone think we are suddenly going to win every other game? Don't get me wrong, I admire the positive attitude, however lets get real. This team stinks.

[avfc_1874]

There's always that blind hope of optimism when there's been a break from the previous game...... then I see the team line-up & shudder.

[SoccerHQ]

We haven't won a game since the opening day. What makes anyone think we are suddenly going to win every other game? Don't get me wrong, I admire the positive attitude, however lets get real. This team stinks.

I suppose last season we hadn't scored for seemingly three months and we then won 5 league games in I think 8 games which must've been our best run since the MON era.

It does make me chuckle when this time last year people on here were saying this was our worst ever team...no it had quality players in like Benteke and D***H but was woefully mismanaged. This time it is an awful squad. I'm not as sold on Garde as some but he does have little to work with.

[Matt Collins]

It would probably be the best escape of the premier league era

I really can't see it but I admire those with faith.

[Matt Collins]

We haven't won a game since the opening day. What makes anyone think we are suddenly going to win every other game? Don't get me wrong, I admire the positive attitude, however lets get real. This team stinks.

I suppose last season we hadn't scored for seemingly three months and we then won 5 league games in I think 8 games which must've been our best run since the MON era.

It does make me chuckle when this time last year people on here were saying this was our worst ever team...no it had quality players in like Benteke and D***H but was woefully mismanaged. This time it is an awful squad. I'm not as sold on Garde as some but he does have little to work with.

There were a few pessimistic posts in the summer about us losing our spine. The retort from some was 'what spine'. It's pretty bloody obvious now.

Hats off to those still going week in and week out, and posting on here, etc. I've been ground down and decided that it's just too painful to invest as much of my life in villa as I used to. I'm much happier as a result I have to say

[martin o`who??]

When I look at the players, the situation we're in, the whole feel of the club, how can it be anything but??.

[oswald funkletrumpet]

When I look at the players, the situation we're in, the whole feel of the club, how can it be anything but??.

if we take no points from the next two games we need 1.5 points per game to hit 38 points which is top 8 form

[gpbarr]

The way I see it - better to be positive about the reality of a season in the Championship - it will be a bloody nose for sure but .... it needn't be the end. If it induces a fresh approach, allows the team, players, and spirit to be lifted through a winning season, and then with the right upgrades (Villa will still be bigger than the bottom 10 PL clubs because of history, ground, attendances etc) we can re-solidify.

Of course, even that can all go wrong but its too painful to keep thinking we are going to pull off the escape that never has happened before, and then get reminded week in week out thats as likely as me becoming President of the free world!!!!

[LeeB]

I'll look forward to the championship when we're mathematically down, which even with our rank form is still a long way off.

Till then we fight, and have some bloody pride in ourselves.