This is the season...

[KevinGage]

It's like a bald man having a come over for 5 years, you finally have to admit your bald and shave it all off. We've just left the babers.

Hope Garde stays and rebuilds us.

Actually, it's more like having really bad toothache for five years.

[oswald funkletrumpet]

If I wasn't a Villa fan, I would be absolutely delighted to see us go down.

We have stunk out this league for five years now, just about getting away with it year after year. Along the way, we've played some of the most dire football in our history.

Yeah, we can tell everyone we won the European Cup and what-not, but these days it counts for jack shit. We have become a by-word for unambitious, do-the-absolute-minimum football all in the name of clinging on for the money. We are embarrassing.

The sooner this chairman manages to sell us on to someone who gives a shit, the better. The meek acceptance of mediocrity starts at the top and trickles down.

If this club over the last five years were a horse, it'd be a mangy old knacker good for the glue factory.

I've accepted we are fucked now. You can't just routinely lose at home to shit like Watford like we have repeatedly for several years and stay up. You can't go season after season notching up 4 or 5 home wins all year and stay up. You can't defend like we do and stay up.

Lerner has been a disaster. He is a well meaning idiot, absolutely clueless.

Of course, the ultimate disaster is yet to come, because we have managed to create a situation where the year we finally do get what we deserve and drop down to mooking about with the shit in the Championship is the very same year that the PL television money goes stratospheric.

Good work, Randy, good work.

so depressing and so true

[Legion]

Very much so.

[Proposition Joe]

Whenever I visit the BBC Sport homepage today, the little sidebar with football results defaults to the Championship instead of Premier like it usually does.  It's like they are quietly preparing me for next season.

[PaulWinch again]

If I wasn't a Villa fan, I would be absolutely delighted to see us go down.

We have stunk out this league for five years now, just about getting away with it year after year. Along the way, we've played some of the most dire football in our history.

Yeah, we can tell everyone we won the European Cup and what-not, but these days it counts for jack shit. We have become a by-word for unambitious, do-the-absolute-minimum football all in the name of clinging on for the money. We are embarrassing.

The sooner this chairman manages to sell us on to someone who gives a shit, the better. The meek acceptance of mediocrity starts at the top and trickles down.

If this club over the last five years were a horse, it'd be a mangy old knacker good for the glue factory.

I've accepted we are fucked now. You can't just routinely lose at home to shit like Watford like we have repeatedly for several years and stay up. You can't go season after season notching up 4 or 5 home wins all year and stay up. You can't defend like we do and stay up.

Lerner has been a disaster. He is a well meaning idiot, absolutely clueless.

Of course, the ultimate disaster is yet to come, because we have managed to create a situation where the year we finally do get what we deserve and drop down to mooking about with the shit in the Championship is the very same year that the PL television money goes stratospheric.

Good work, Randy, good work.

Yep that sums it up nicely. Thing is I'm just so utterly bored of it, I really hate football as well now. It's just so shit.

[Legion]

"Is this..?"

No.

"This is..."

[mr woo]

It's like a bald man having a come over for 5 years

What a bukkake party that must've been.

[eric woolban woolban]

There are no players in the squad that I'd care about staying. So when we're down, they can all go as far as I'm concerned

Really looking forward to a wet Tuesday night in Rotherham.

[myf]

How much do we get this year if we finish bottom and are the parachute payments the same amount for 3 years? How does it compare to finushing bottom next year?

[Duncan Shaw]

There are no players in the squad that I'd care about staying. So when we're down, they can all go as far as I'm concerned

Really looking forward to a wet Tuesday night in Rotherham.

As I walked out of Wembley in May I said I wouldn't care if I never saw any of them in a Villa shirt again, even the so-called best 4.

[aj2k77]

There are no players in the squad that I'd care about staying. So when we're down, they can all go as far as I'm concerned

Really looking forward to a wet Tuesday night in Rotherham.

As I walked out of Wembley in May I said I wouldn't care if I never saw any of them in a Villa shirt again, even the so-called best 4.

They all to a man either get completely bullied, make regular clangers or are more or less anonymous and it takes 2 or 3 players to do the job of a single decent player. After this season I'd like to think i'd never see the likes of Gabby, Westwood, Richardson, Guzan, Clark et all again but I know deep down they'll still be here and we will still be shite.

[Des Little]

It dawned on me today that we may not see the top division again for quite a few years. That's not a great prospect.,

[maigrait]

How much do we get this year if we finish bottom and are the parachute payments the same amount for 3 years? How does it compare to finushing bottom next year?

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jun/02/parachute-payments-clubs-relegated-premier-league

This appears to be a good summary of the money if relegated. Notice the word if thats about as optimistic as i get.

[jwarry]

Why is everyone getting so worked up. If you've followed the Villa for 50 years you will know we have our good times and our bad times.  It's time for a dip again but we always come back for our next adventure. In resigned to Champ football already and quite honestly looking forward to it. Might not be pretty but hey i remember 2 years in the third division and actually I really enjoyed it. It's the fans that make AV great and always will. We will never be small town ever....

[myf]

Just seen a website which says bottom club 2016/17 gets just shy of £97m compared to bottom club last year got £67m. Im still confused about the parachute payments though.