This is the season...

[Monty]

Gana, Ayew, Veretout, Sanchez. They're not awful, the team is.

Gil's done some things in his career, Sinclair similarly, Richards looks fine. Those guys are comfortably mid-table players, while the rest of them you might expect to struggle. Therefore, we should be about 17th. As it happens, we're bottom by miles.

[aj2k77]

Sanchez we'd get a couple of mill for. Ayew/Gana/Veretout £4-5 each. Fuck all really. Consider we will lose the TV money and we are well fucked. We will be selling these players off and replacing them with more Lowtons and the like for the next few seasons.

[Goldie.7]

Gana, Ayew, Veretout, Sanchez. They're not awful, the team is.

For me Sanchez has had a hell of a lot more bad games than good ones.

[Monty]

Sanchez we'd get a couple of mill for. Ayew/Gana/Veretout £4-5 each. Fuck all really. Consider we will lose the TV money and we are well fucked. We will be selling these players off and replacing them with more Lowtons and the like for the next few seasons.

They'd all be bargains, and their new fans would be thinking 'how were they in a team which lost so many games'?

[Stirchley Villain]

Sinclair had one good season at Swansea. Richards wasn't good enough for Man City. I'm curious... what's Gil done?

[Monty]

Sinclair had one good season at Swansea. Richards wasn't good enough for Man City. I'm curious... what's Gil done?

That's not nothing at Swansea. Richards wasn't good enough for title and Champions League contenders, but he's been fine for us. Gil has done a fair bit for us considering Sherwood didn't play him as a fruity foreigner.

Actually, let's throw in Adama to the 'not a relegation player' category. He came on today and scared Watford shitless.

[itbrvilla]

Feels like a fucking death. We are fucked.

[Goldie.7]

To be honest, who cares who goes if the highly likely inevitable happens. None of these first team players will be missed.

[aj2k77]

Sanchez we'd get a couple of mill for. Ayew/Gana/Veretout £4-5 each. Fuck all really. Consider we will lose the TV money and we are well fucked. We will be selling these players off and replacing them with more Lowtons and the like for the next few seasons.

They'd all be bargains, and their new fans would be thinking 'how were they in a team which lost so many games'?

I'll agree to disagree on this one, we are every bit as bad as the results suggest. There's no secret to why we are continually so bad.

[Monty]

Fine, we'll disagree. I think it might have something to do with appointing a manager who didn't see the need to have a pre-season until halfway through September, and whose goalkeeper at his previous club described his training sessions as 'a joke'. My guess is it's more to do with that.

[Goldie.7]

Sinclair had one good season at Swansea. Richards wasn't good enough for Man City. I'm curious... what's Gil done?

That's not nothing at Swansea. Richards wasn't good enough for title and Champions League contenders, but he's been fine for us. Gil has done a fair bit for us considering Sherwood didn't play him as a fruity foreigner.

Actually, let's throw in Adama to the 'not a relegation player' category. He came on today and scared Watford shitless.

One win in 14 says he isn't. Him and Clark are simply awful, how can people not see what's right in front of their eyes.

[curiousorange]

Just because Richards scored it doesn't absolve him of blame. If he's the senior defender in that back four the constant conceding of tissue-soft goals doesn't say much for his organisational ability.

[aj2k77]

Richards is a terrible centre back. The whole back 4 play in a fluster like it's the 90th minute and they've been under the cosh all game. No composure, no brains and no organisation back there.

[aj2k77]

Right back he used to use his physical attributes, bull dozing past players and going on runs. He can't do that in the centre and for me that was always pretty much his main feature.

[Stirchley Villain]

At least we have a proven Championship striker in Gestede.