This is the season...

[QuintonVilla]

Despite the fact it's only November I've already accepted that we're going down this season. We've flirted with it for long enough now, this is where our luck runs out. We can't defend or keep a clean sheet for toffee, and there's hardly any goals in this team. Looking at our lineup and squad there are a lot of poor players and passengers there. That team the other night wouldn't look out of place in the Championship.

[myf]

To get to 40 points from here we basically need a run that is equivalent to gaining 48 points from a 38 game season. I doubt anybody thought that was beyond us from this point.

However, you should be able to lose at most 18 games over the season and be safe, and we've lost that number already.

So I think it comes down to whether we are actually massively underperforming, or if the results we've had so far reflects our actual level.

over my head

[PeterWithesShin]

Another shocking record to add to the list. We must be first club in history to lose 18 of our first 11 games. Everyone out!!!

[Steve kirk]

Wanksey on WM in between having digs at Villa mentioned that when Pulis turned up at Palace they had 4 points from 11 games but stayed up easily in the end in 11th place with 45 points winning 12 out of 27 games and this gives me a glimmer of hope, from what I remember he kind of just let them loose rather than adopting his usual sterile negative way of setting up his teams, I have had a look at that Palace squad and in my opinion it was no stronger than our current set of players.
Things look desperate and we are all drained and deflated but if Remi can get that elusive 2nd win quickly like Pulis did we might, just might get out of this huge mess were in.

[Dave]

To get to 40 points from here...

Not that we'd likely need as many as that.

The team in 17th place has finished with fewer than 40 points every year but one since 2003.

[Villa in Denmark]

Another shocking record to add to the list. We must be first club in history to lose 18 of our first 11 games. Everyone out!!!

Bloody hell, that's disgraceful.

The Babylonians and Sumerians really cocked up 4000 years ago when they developed the basis for modern mathematics. Maybe on this new basis we've actually been galactic champions for the last 100 years.

[mr underhill]

Managed by Mr Spock and Scotty

[Stirchley Villain]

Aston Villa are where they are because the owner, Randy Lerner, has completely lost interest. This has cascaded down through the club to the point that even the kids serving the beer and snacks in the areas below the stands can't be arsed.

[Ger Regan]

That would be a nice analogy but for the fact that they've never been arsed, in my experience.

[Stirchley Villain]

Wanksey on WM in between having digs at Villa mentioned that when Pulis turned up at Palace they had 4 points from 11 games but stayed up easily in the end in 11th place with 45 points winning 12 out of 27 games and this gives me a glimmer of hope, from what I remember he kind of just let them loose rather than adopting his usual sterile negative way of setting up his teams, I have had a look at that Palace squad and in my opinion it was no stronger than our current set of players.
Things look desperate and we are all drained and deflated but if Remi can get that elusive 2nd win quickly like Pulis did we might, just might get out of this huge mess were in.

We're all desperate men who at this moment would clutch at these straws like they were fivers in a bucket.

[villan from luton]

Aston Villa are where they are because the owner, Randy Lerner, has completely lost interest. This has cascaded down through the club to the point that even the kids serving the beer and snacks in the areas below the stands can't be arsed.

If he had totally lost interest, why would he change manager?

[peter w]

We've failed at everything else over the past 5 or so seasons so there's every hope we'll fail miserably to go down when we're looking odds on.

[villan from luton]

We've failed at everything else over the past 5 or so seasons so there's every hope we'll fail miserably to go down when we're looking odds on.

You say we have failed miserably but we have not been relegated.

[peter w]

We've failed at everything else over the past 5 or so seasons so there's every hope we'll fail miserably to go down when we're looking odds on.

You say we have failed miserably but we have not been relegated.

We tried hard enough and failed.

[Stirchley Villain]

Aston Villa are where they are because the owner, Randy Lerner, has completely lost interest. This has cascaded down through the club to the point that even the kids serving the beer and snacks in the areas below the stands can't be arsed.

If he had totally lost interest, why would he change manager?

Because he has to.