This is the season...

[olaftab]

I hope you have all noticed that this week all promoted teams got a right good hammering. This is due to early season enthusiasm  and energetic effort wearing out and other teams working them out. You will see a steady decline for them towards the relegation spots. We have to make sure we don't stand in their way.

[silhillvilla]

I hope you have all noticed that this week all promoted teams got a right good hammering. This is due to early season enthusiasm  and energetic effort wearing out and other teams working them out. You will see a steady decline for them towards the relegation spots. We have to make sure we don't stand in their way.

Good point. Those 6 games ( 1 won already ) will be our cup finals, win them all its 18 points, circa half way to safety.

[ez]

I think so. This season is worse than anything from the last 5 years. I've seen nothing to suggest our manager and most of our players are anything other than sub standard.

[martin o`who??]

I'm beginning to think that if the unthinkable does happen - and it's looking increasingly likely - it may actually be a good thing in some respects, the clubs value should plummet which would force RL to lower his asking price, which may hopefully trigger a few serious bids for the club. Treading water like this is becoming embarrassing for all concerned, a change of direction and thinking may be what's needed.

The flip side of that is that if the club'a value is low enough the likes of the richest hairdresser in Hong Kong get tempted.

It sure as hell isn't great having Randy as owner, but the recent to medium term history of that lot and Wolves, not to mention several other clubs around the country show how wrong it can go when you've got an owner who wants out at any price.

Absolutely, but we're not exactly beating off suitors with a stick and somethings going to give eventually - probably our Premiership place by the look of it, I'm just looking for a silver lining to "that long black cloud that's comin' down" (with apologies to Robert Zimmerman)

[themossman]

This year is different. I can't think of one reason why we will stay up and I can't think of one team more likely to drop than us. As far as I'm concerned we have zero chance of staying up and it's just a case of waiting to have it confirmed.

[martin o`who??]

This year is different. I can't think of one reason why we will stay up and I can't think of one team more likely to drop than us. As far as I'm concerned we have zero chance of staying up and it's just a case of waiting to have it confirmed.

I can think of two reasons why we won't: Fabian Delph and Christian Benteke.

[cheltenhamlion]

As it stands, we are fucked. There is time enough to get out but we need to get a proper manager in.

I am no advocate of Allardyce, but yesterday Sunderland were organised defensively and dangerous from set pieces. We can't even do that.

[PeterWithesShin]

It's looking very much like we'll really struggle if Sherwood stays. However as I said on the Other Games thread,  37-39 points normally keeps you up, that means we need 33-35 points from 29 games to stay up. With a manager in charge that knows what he's doing that's not exactly difficult.

[silhillvilla]

It's looking very much like we'll really struggle if Sherwood stays. However as I said on the Other Games thread,  37-39 points normally keeps you up, that means we need 33-35 points from 29 games to stay up. With a manager in charge that knows what he's doing that's not exactly difficult.

You're talking over 1 point a game average. Not a hope.
We are now averaging about 0.3 per game.

[walsall villain]

It's looking very much like we'll really struggle if Sherwood stays. However as I said on the Other Games thread,  37-39 points normally keeps you up, that means we need 33-35 points from 29 games to stay up. With a manager in charge that knows what he's doing that's not exactly difficult.

You're talking over 1 point a game average. Not a hope.
We are now averaging about 0.3 per game.

He did say with a manager in charge who knows what he is doing, that's not Sherwood.

[PeterWithesShin]

You genuinely don't believe another manager can get this squad getting just over a point a game? You seem to be basing your reply on Sherwood, which isn't what I said.

[tony scott]

I think a decent manager can make our team very difficult to beat, but can he make that team win at least nine games as well ?

[UK Redsox]

Newcastle are starting to score goals
If anyone can resurrect Sunderland, it's Sam

So, yes. This could be the season.

[myf]

You genuinely don't believe another manager can get this squad getting just over a point a game? You seem to be basing your reply on Sherwood, which isn't what I said.

didnt tim average 1+ last season? Whilst his win record is shite its surprising how few games he draws

[Malandro]

You genuinely don't believe another manager can get this squad getting just over a point a game? You seem to be basing your reply on Sherwood, which isn't what I said.

didnt tim average 1+ last season? Whilst his win record is shite its surprising how few games he draws

Its not because he's like Ardiles, all or nothing