This is the season...

[Rudy65]

Even a new manager coming in, I just don't see enough goal threat in this team.

We will have to panic spend on a new striker in January.

Circa Darren Bent 2011

[Stirchley Villain]

Even a new manager coming in, I just don't see enough goal threat in this team.

We will have to panic spend on a new striker in January.

Circa Darren Bent 2011

Our playing staff are much worse than then.

[myf]

I'm just totally fed up of the whole shower this once great club has become.  I said after the Stoke game that I'll always love Aston Villa, but that after 27 years, it may be time to think about finding something else to do on a Saturday.

I have a lot of things going on in my life at the moment.  Do I really want to continue throwing money at a club that is content to do the bare minimum needed to stay in the league?  Many other I know have done the same thing and drifted away, never to be tempted back.  Its not just a case of "string some wins together and they'll all come rushing back".  People get out of the habit of going, and given what's happened since August 2010, why should people get back into the habit.  I'm talking about fans who were far more hard-core than I am.  Fans who travelled all over the country an Europe to watch us yet now don't even bother with home games.  A lot of people simply don't have the spare cash anymore to pay for tickets, travel and food at grounds (most of which are a rip-off anyway).

I have a job where things are tough and circumstances dictate that so many of us there are not happy, but know that not being employed won't pay the bills.  I go to football (and other sports I watch) to be entertained and to be happy, I go to work to be miserable, why should I have to feel the same watching the current players and staff going through the motions?

Just feeling very sad that it has all come to this.

I feel your pain. I feel the same

However, I do think people would come back at rhe sign of a decent side. I gave up my ST 3 years ago but would renew at the first sign of some stability and of having people at the club who were going to make us successful.

We may stay up this season, with a new manager, but without a change if ownership we will continue to be mediocre

Same here. I'd love to renew and take my lad but am sick of the club at the minute. The team is so soft and gutless and there's no passion or fight. I've had so many depressing days watching villa in the last 5 years I've lost all faith. The majority of the management and players don't seem to understand the club and I can't relate to any of them either.

[Stirchley Villain]

If we went down it might be fun to see Rudy ripping the Championship a new one...

[SteveN]

I fear that this will be the season.

[itbrvilla]

I'm just totally fed up of the whole shower this once great club has become.  I said after the Stoke game that I'll always love Aston Villa, but that after 27 years, it may be time to think about finding something else to do on a Saturday.

I have a lot of things going on in my life at the moment.  Do I really want to continue throwing money at a club that is content to do the bare minimum needed to stay in the league?  Many other I know have done the same thing and drifted away, never to be tempted back.  Its not just a case of "string some wins together and they'll all come rushing back".  People get out of the habit of going, and given what's happened since August 2010, why should people get back into the habit.  I'm talking about fans who were far more hard-core than I am.  Fans who travelled all over the country an Europe to watch us yet now don't even bother with home games.  A lot of people simply don't have the spare cash anymore to pay for tickets, travel and food at grounds (most of which are a rip-off anyway).

I have a job where things are tough and circumstances dictate that so many of us there are not happy, but know that not being employed won't pay the bills.  I go to football (and other sports I watch) to be entertained and to be happy, I go to work to be miserable, why should I have to feel the same watching the current players and staff going through the motions?

Just feeling very sad that it has all come to this.

I feel your pain. I feel the same

However, I do think people would come back at rhe sign of a decent side. I gave up my ST 3 years ago but would renew at the first sign of some stability and of having people at the club who were going to make us successful.

We may stay up this season, with a new manager, but without a change if ownership we will continue to be mediocre

Same here. I'd love to renew and take my lad but am sick of the club at the minute. The team is so soft and gutless and there's no passion or fight. I've had so many depressing days watching villa in the last 5 years I've lost all faith. The majority of the management and players don't seem to understand the club and I can't relate to any of them either.

I sympathise completely. I can't afford to go to the football often due to career change and am already rapidly falling out of love with football. The last thing I want is for the club I love to be the thing that eventually drives me away. I can take defeat, I can take relegation, I can't take the negativity and shot that we repeatedly have to put up with.

[oswald funkletrumpet]

When we went down last time , we got such a lucky break that Sir Graham came along arrested the slide , refreshed the club and got us back immediately.

We won't be so lucky again I fear.

if we go down we are finished as a club see leeds, wednesday and forest.

the championship is a tough league where you need players to roll up their sleeves and show some fight and barring a couple of players we have a team of pussies

[PaulWinch again]

If it isn't it's coming. Like others I'm just so sick of us being a complete joke.

[Dave Cooper please]

if we go down we are finished as a club see leeds, wednesday and forest.

I'm pretty sure all three of those teams are still going.

[pauliewalnuts]

if we go down we are finished as a club see leeds, wednesday and forest.

I'm pretty sure all three of those teams are still going.

Yeah.

The problem is, they're still going, but like them, we'd be like Ray Liotta at the end of Goodfellas, picking his paper up off the drive in his dressing gown, eeking out the rest of his life like a shnook

[PaulWinch again]

if we go down we are finished as a club see leeds, wednesday and forest.

I'm pretty sure all three of those teams are still going.

Yeah.

The problem is, they're still going, but like them, we'd be like Ray Liotta at the end of Goodfellas, picking his paper up off the drive in his dressing gown, eeking out the rest of his life like a shnook

And that's it. Those clubs all exist, but they're nothing now and I don't think its acceptable for Villa to be that.

[Dave Cooper please]

They aren't nothing, they are fine football clubs with plenty of devoted fans. I'm sure there was a time when said fans thought the same as you do, that their club should never be outside the top division and should be up their challenging for trophies, but no club has ever had a divine right to glory, especially one which was last  anywhere near the best in the country over 30 years ago and last dominated football when Victoria was still on the throne.

If this IS the season then so be it, fuck 'em, we will still be Aston Villa, and you'll still be supporting a fantastic club, won't you?

[OzVilla]

Yes, this is the season. We are utterly feeble as a club. I'm amazed as many people still put money up to watch this shit week in week out. I feel sorry for the supporters but as far as Lerner is concerned, if he loses another fortune after we get relegated then fuck him quite frankly. He'd have deserved it for his total mismanagement from the day he walked in the door.

[VillaAlways]

you keep losing games you go down

#iitsnotrocketscience

[PaulWinch again]

They aren't nothing, they are fine football clubs with plenty of devoted fans. I'm sure there was a time when said fans thought the same as you do, that their club should never be outside the top division and should be up their challenging for trophies, but no club has ever had a divine right to glory, especially one which was last  anywhere near the best in the country over 30 years ago and last dominated football when Victoria was still on the throne.

If this IS the season then so be it, fuck 'em, we will still be Aston Villa, and you'll still be supporting a fantastic club, won't you?

Well it all depends what you define fantastic as. Historically we are a fantastic club and we have great fans, just look at every away game we play and the fact we still get around 30,000 fans at home. But in terms of the game the club is designed to play we are a million miles off fantastic. We have been a shambles on the pitch for years.