This is the season...

[Eigentor]

Even though the last seasons under McLeish/Lambert were poor, it was a general rule that we were mostly floating slightly above the relegation zone and only occasionally fell into it. This season, however, seems different because we have almost instantly sunk into it, and seemingly have no intention of getting out of it.

[villa for life]

just like Leicester last season......which is why we mustn't give up.

[Stirchley Villain]

It's been coming for 6 years. Nailed on this year I think.

[andyh]

The thing is, we are now already back in that spiral, back in the mire.
September was barely over when the manager acknowledged that the clubs ambition is just to avoid relegation.

The mind set at the club was therefore established.

Basically, the players have been told we are in the shit. They now  can't possibly play with confidence,flair, belief and freedom.
They are already playing with nervousnous, fear and, to some extents, resignation.

They are already approaching every game as another critical game that we can't afford to lose.
So, no one wants to take responsibility, no one wants to the one who fucks up and gives a goal away.

This has come from the way the club is run and managed.

Not only are us fans being 'managed' by having low expectations, but so are the players.

And it's only fucking October.

[Stirchley Villain]

We're in a death spiral. There's an air of inevitability about it this season.

[levico]

It's looking very ominous but the only 'certainty' is that if Sherwood stays we are sunk. A change of manager would give us a chance of staying up.

[silhillvilla]

It's looking very ominous but the only 'certainty' is that if Sherwood stays we are sunk. A change of manager would give us a chance of staying up.

Along with a decent striker in January . So new manager and a goal scorer in Jan is the very minimum we need .

[myf]

Can you imagine Lerner and Fox preparing for a season in the championship? Frightening

[Pete3206]

It's looking very ominous but the only 'certainty' is that if Sherwood stays we are sunk. A change of manager would give us a chance of staying up.

So who is this saviour?

[Rudy65]

We're in a death spiral. There's an air of inevitability about it this season.

Change manager and we will be fine. Plenty of time if we act now

[olaftab]

It's looking very ominous but the only 'certainty' is that if Sherwood stays we are sunk. A change of manager would give us a chance of staying up.

Along with a decent striker in January . So new manager and a goal scorer in Jan is the very minimum we need .

January? We will be relegated by December at current rate.

[wittonwarrior]

It's looking very ominous but the only 'certainty' is that if Sherwood stays we are sunk. A change of manager would give us a chance of staying up.

So who is this saviour?

[wittonwarrior]

It's looking very ominous but the only 'certainty' is that if Sherwood stays we are sunk. A change of manager would give us a chance of staying up.

Along with a decent striker in January . So new manager and a goal scorer in Jan is the very minimum we need .

meant to say only a season that would be a plus at this point.  Looking at the league table is gut wrenching.

[LTA]

I'm just totally fed up of the whole shower this once great club has become.  I said after the Stoke game that I'll always love Aston Villa, but that after 27 years, it may be time to think about finding something else to do on a Saturday.

I have a lot of things going on in my life at the moment.  Do I really want to continue throwing money at a club that is content to do the bare minimum needed to stay in the league?  Many other I know have done the same thing and drifted away, never to be tempted back.  Its not just a case of "string some wins together and they'll all come rushing back".  People get out of the habit of going, and given what's happened since August 2010, why should people get back into the habit.  I'm talking about fans who were far more hard-core than I am.  Fans who travelled all over the country an Europe to watch us yet now don't even bother with home games.  A lot of people simply don't have the spare cash anymore to pay for tickets, travel and food at grounds (most of which are a rip-off anyway).

I have a job where things are tough and circumstances dictate that so many of us there are not happy, but know that not being employed won't pay the bills.  I go to football (and other sports I watch) to be entertained and to be happy, I go to work to be miserable, why should I have to feel the same watching the current players and staff going through the motions?

Just feeling very sad that it has all come to this.

[silhillvilla]

Lerner needs to act. Something has to happen surely.