Poll - Sherwood - got rid

[TonyD]

It will happen tomorrow. 

[Dave]

At least Gareth gets the soul of the club.  Seem to remember him commenting on the lack of mementos on the European Cup win around the place in his book.

Well, that's that sorted then. Southgate comes in, sticks a couple of pictures of Peter Withe on the wall and we start climbing the table to safety.

Can't see what all the fuss is about.

[ozzjim]

Worrying that in the mail the split is much more even on him getting the boot.

[Villa in Denmark]

At least Gareth gets the soul of the club.  Seem to remember him commenting on the lack of mementos on the European Cup win around the place in his book.

Well, that's that sorted then. Southgate comes in, sticks a couple of pictures of Peter Withe on the wall and we start climbing the table to safety.

Can't see what all the fuss is about.

If only someone had told Sherwood, we could have been spared a whole load of bother.

It's the Gary Mabbutt and Glenn Hoddle pictures that are the problem.

[Mister E]

Hopefully tomorrow he'll be gone. Frank de Boer would be the right choice if available and deliverable.
If they keep Dim Tim for any further games, we'll be putting ourselves seriously at risk.

[villan from luton]

Hopefully tomorrow he'll be gone. Frank de Boer would be the right choice if available and deliverable.
If they keep Dim Tim for any further games, we'll be putting ourselves seriously at risk.

I would suggest that is unlikely to be deliverable

[Steve67]

Worrying that in the mail the split is much more even on him getting the boot.

Blues fans. What a sense of humour they have!

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

Being Gareth Southgate's employer for a second time would be idiotic.

Aside from Hodge, he was the first player I can recall that openly displayed contempt for the club who was paying his wages at the time, the first of the new breed of modern professionals that tried to talk their way into a move via the backpages.

I didn't see it like that at all, still don't. As far as I remember he put in a transfer request after the 2000 cup final, the club refused it and he went on to have arguably his finest season for us. Maybe my memory is playing tricks on me but I don't recall any prolonged public agitating for a move, any defamatory stuff in the press, at the time he seemed to just knuckle down and get on with the job. It's easy to mock him joining Boro the following year, but to me that says more about Villa under Ellis than anything else. That an established England international and top six club captain should have deemed Boro more likely to meet his ambitions is a damning indictment of Ellis's parsimony. 

You should read Southgate's book, Woody and Nord, it gives quite an insight into Ellis's archaic approach and explains Southgate's frustrations. His desperation to see some ambition from Villa matched ours. He makes the same complaints we all used to.  There certainly isn't any contempt shown towards us.

As I said, I may have forgotten examples of him being Hodgelike, or maybe was never aware of them, but I always thought Southgate was an excellent player and intelligent captain who conducted himself very well.  There are plenty of players in our recent history who deserve loathing more than him.

Don't want him as manager though, he's crap at that.

[aj2k77]

The management of this club is so poor that no one would be surprised if he was kept in charge and the defeats racked up to 10 in a row before something happened and the next complete twat with no experience was wheeled in like a lamb to the slaughter.

[Karlos96]

Worrying that in the mail the split is much more even on him getting the boot.

Blues fans. What a sense of humour they have!

Well his name was sung a number of times today by the Holte so it wouldn't surprise me that not everyone wants him out, God knows why the guy is fucking idiot.

[sidcowans10]

Being Gareth Southgate's employer for a second time would be idiotic.

Aside from Hodge, he was the first player I can recall that openly displayed contempt for the club who was paying his wages at the time, the first of the new breed of modern professionals that tried to talk their way into a move via the backpages.

I didn't see it like that at all, still don't. As far as I remember he put in a transfer request after the 2000 cup final, the club refused it and he went on to have arguably his finest season for us. Maybe my memory is playing tricks on me but I don't recall any prolonged public agitating for a move, any defamatory stuff in the press, at the time he seemed to just knuckle down and get on with the job. It's easy to mock him joining Boro the following year, but to me that says more about Villa under Ellis than anything else. That an established England international and top six club captain should have deemed Boro more likely to meet his ambitions is a damning indictment of Ellis's parsimony. 

You should read Southgate's book, Woody and Nord, it gives quite an insight into Ellis's archaic approach and explains Southgate's frustrations. His desperation to see some ambition from Villa matched ours. He makes the same complaints we all used to.  There certainly isn't any contempt shown towards us.

As I said, I may have forgotten examples of him being Hodgelike, or maybe was never aware of them, but I always thought Southgate was an excellent player and intelligent captain who conducted himself very well.  There are plenty of players in our recent history who deserve loathing more than him.

Don't want him as manager though, he's crap at that.

Correct on both counts. I remember as well that he was just frustrated that we didn't match his ambition. But after his transfer request he was excellent. " A model pro".

But yes he's a crap manager

[KevinGage]

1997, and-after two years of progress under Sir Brian- we have our first rough trot.

Southgate is captain at the time. Do we get a rousing "We'll turn it around/ we're  all in this together" clarion call?

No.  We get:  "A number of players at the club are considering their future, and I could be one of them."

Total arsehole.

It was fairly obvious Platt wouldn't hang around when he started taking Italian lessons. Staunton was always likely to go back to Liverpool when the opportunity was right. But neither took the piss like Southgate.

And in all honesty, if Gareth Southgate felt that a club who regularly finished 5th and 6th were below him, he needed a bit of tough love.

Chelsea didn't go above their £5 million bid in 2000, and had no intention of doing so, according to Ken Bates in his Sunday column at the time. Why would they, as they already had Desailly, Lebouef and Terry at the time. He would have been cover.

If Gareth Southgate had truly been as good as Gareth Southgate believed, he would have had a whole host of top clubs tripping over themselves to sign him.  That didn't happen.

[walsall villain]

Any poll about any local team in that paper is a waste of time for obvious reasons. The polls on here are a good indication though.

[Pat McMahon]

Being Gareth Southgate's employer for a second time would be idiotic.

Aside from Hodge, he was the first player I can recall that openly displayed contempt for the club who was paying his wages at the time, the first of the new breed of modern professionals that tried to talk their way into a move via the backpages.

I didn't see it like that at all, still don't. As far as I remember he put in a transfer request after the 2000 cup final, the club refused it and he went on to have arguably his finest season for us. Maybe my memory is playing tricks on me but I don't recall any prolonged public agitating for a move, any defamatory stuff in the press, at the time he seemed to just knuckle down and get on with the job. It's easy to mock him joining Boro the following year, but to me that says more about Villa under Ellis than anything else. That an established England international and top six club captain should have deemed Boro more likely to meet his ambitions is a damning indictment of Ellis's parsimony. 

You should read Southgate's book, Woody and Nord, it gives quite an insight into Ellis's archaic approach and explains Southgate's frustrations. His desperation to see some ambition from Villa matched ours. He makes the same complaints we all used to.  There certainly isn't any contempt shown towards us.

As I said, I may have forgotten examples of him being Hodgelike, or maybe was never aware of them, but I always thought Southgate was an excellent player and intelligent captain who conducted himself very well.  There are plenty of players in our recent history who deserve loathing more than him.

Don't want him as manager though, he's crap at that.

My take too Chinchilla. I knew his dad when Southgate played for us and he utterly got the size of the Villa and what we were about. The fact that he joined Boro says more about about how we were being run and where we were headed - after all he won the league cup and played in a UEFA Cup final with them.

I categorically don't want him as a manager though. I couldn't give a shit about the "ex player knows the club cliche".

[olaftab]

Worrying that in the mail the split is much more even on him getting the boot.

Haha...we are not a one club city like Sunderland or Newcastle so the local paper poll will have other teams supporters making mischief.