Poll - Sherwood - got rid

[Dave]

Even without the benefit of hindsight, having a shortlist of one person, and that person being someone who had managed - at any level - for four or five months was about as cretinous as it fucking gets.

It was every bit as stupid a decision as the McLeish one.

At least McLeish had the leeway to drop us half a dozen places down the table and we'd still survive. We didn't really have that luxury this time.

[paul_e]

He'll never manage a team again. Absolute garbage

I agree. I said it earlier he reminds me of the clueless Paul Merson when he thought he could cut it as a manager.

It's like he exists solely on bluster.

Talking a good game, having the front, talking about himself a lot, giving it large, having a laugh with the press boys, and then when it comes to match day, sitting on the bench pissing his pants and shaking like a shitting puppy because he's so far out of his depth.

I don't think he even talks a good game, he talks a lot without saying anything meaningful, look at the post match stuff on the beeb, it's all they work hard enough but I've told them we can't carry passengers.  Then there's all the 'don't be afraid to lose' nonsense which doesn't mean anything (don't be afraid to attack makes sense).  When you then add the fact that he contradicts everything he says with what he does on the pitch (leaving Gestede on when he was clearly a passenger, dropping Amavi for making mistakes after saying he wants players to be willing to make mistakes).

[Rudy65]

I don't know why the hell we're giving it 48 hours to make our mind up whether we sack him or not. Just do it fuckin now and at least look like you give a damn!

Its not that straightforward though is it. We need to have a replacement lined up fairly sharpish.

Im just not convinced there is anyone out there with sufficient quality who is either available or interested.

We are a basket case, or as Tim says, in a hole.

I want Moyes but why would he come. He might think if he rescues us he will be back to where he was with Everton, a success. That said as some point a position with a middling prem club will come up which may be more attractive and less of a risk to Moyes.

Just looked at the league table and our upcoming fixtures. F me that is depressing. We have had a fairly easy run of fixtures and managed to pick up 4 points. We play Liverpool, Stoke and Swansea all of whom were on bad runs, until they played us.

 I want to remain positive but its very, very difficult to do so

[Steve67]

Whose name will be drawn out the tombola next for the managers role?

For once, Fox and Randy have to make the right call. Don't even think about Pearson. Fight tooth and nail for a top man. The infrastructure appears to be better so the choice needs to be right. I honestly believe that we have some great players.

[Toronto Villa]

Even without the benefit of hindsight, having a shortlist of one person, and that person being someone who had managed - at any level - for four or five months was about as cretinous as it fucking gets.

It was every bit as stupid a decision as the McLeish one.

At least McLeish had the leeway to drop us half a dozen places down the table and we'd still survive. We didn't really have that luxury this time.

McLeish would never had enough about him to keep us up from where Lambert had left us. Post Hull we needed a personality so different to Lambert and Sherwood provided it. While the spark was very short lived, but was just enough to see us over the edge. Literally just enough.

[Toronto Villa]

Whose name will be drawn out the tombola next for the managers role?

For once, Fox and Randy have to make the right call. Don't even think about Pearson. Fight tooth and nail for a top man. The infrastructure appears to be better so the choice needs to be right. I honestly believe that we have some great players.

The only tiny bit of hope I have is that the players signed this summer were not what any of had expected. Let's hope the managerial appointment is either every bit as pleasantly surprising or at the very least someone we have heard of, have some degree of trust in and we can all agree on can get us out of this mess

[Legion]

He kept us up last season. I am grateful for that. We had a great time at Wembley v Liverpool. I am grateful for that aswell. It all started to go wrong when we we lost 6-1 to Southampton. I never actually realised how wrong at the time, though. Thought it was a blip. Turned out to be a cavern.

[PeterWithesShin]

Has there ever been a manager poll on H&V before that is so one-sided as this one?

[Dave]

Even without the benefit of hindsight, having a shortlist of one person, and that person being someone who had managed - at any level - for four or five months was about as cretinous as it fucking gets.

It was every bit as stupid a decision as the McLeish one.

At least McLeish had the leeway to drop us half a dozen places down the table and we'd still survive. We didn't really have that luxury this time.

McLeish would never had enough about him to keep us up from where Lambert had left us. Post Hull we needed a personality so different to Lambert and Sherwood provided it. While the spark was very short lived, but was just enough to see us over the edge. Literally just enough.

That's not what I mean. When we finish ninth, it matters less if the following season is with a shit manager. He's got room to fuck up, as McLeish inevitably did.

If we finish 17th, going into the following season with a shit manager is more likely to be terminal - as it predictably looks like this season might be.

[Sexual Ealing]

Has there ever been a manager poll on H&V before that is so one-sided as this one?

I think I remember being one of two who voted to keep Lambert!

[Toronto Villa]

Even without the benefit of hindsight, having a shortlist of one person, and that person being someone who had managed - at any level - for four or five months was about as cretinous as it fucking gets.

It was every bit as stupid a decision as the McLeish one.

At least McLeish had the leeway to drop us half a dozen places down the table and we'd still survive. We didn't really have that luxury this time.

McLeish would never had enough about him to keep us up from where Lambert had left us. Post Hull we needed a personality so different to Lambert and Sherwood provided it. While the spark was very short lived, but was just enough to see us over the edge. Literally just enough.

That's not what I mean. When we finish ninth, it matters less if the following season is with a shit manager. He's got room to fuck up, as McLeish inevitably did.

If we finish 17th, going into the following season with a shit manager is more likely to be terminal - as it predictably looks like this season might be.

that ninth place finish was a bit deceptive though wasn't it? Bringing in McLeish was a horrific decision in every sense.

[brian green]

I made the cardinal error of putting on the car radio on the way home to listen to the rugby. Almost as some sort of self harm I stayed for 606 and was forced to listen to those pair of arseholes giving merciless stick to an honest, articulate Villa fan who described Sherwood as a charlatan.  But Tim had Benteke and Delph and Vlaar and Cleverly sold from under him and how can  Aston Villa ever attract players that good. The Villa fan did not get the chance to say Sherwood knew Benteke and Delph were gone in the summer, that Cleverley was a loan and that Vlaar has Waterford Crystal legs and has been shit ever since the World Cup but Sherwood still signed a contract..

It is that sort of all luvvies together attitude that allows fakers and charlatans to continue to thrive in football.

Villa are turning me into a horrible, bad tempered old git.

[Dave]

that ninth place finish was a bit deceptive though wasn't it? Bringing in McLeish was a horrific decision in every sense.

As was the Sherwood one.

[pauliewalnuts]

I made the cardinal error of putting on the car radio on the way home to listen to the rugby. Almost as some sort of self harm I stayed for 606 and was forced to listen to those pair of arseholes giving merciless stick to an honest, articulate Villa fan who described Sherwood as a charlatan.  But Tim had Benteke and Delph and Vlaar and Cleverly sold from under him and how can get Aston Villa ever attract players that good. The Villa fan did not get the chance to say Sherwood knew Benteke and Delph were gone in the summer, that Cleverley was a loan and that Vlaar has Waterford Crystal legs and has been shit ever since the World Cup but Sherwood still signed a contract..

I don't know how anyone can listen to that shit.

I just avoid it. I don't watch MOTD, I avoid all the Sky football output the next day, and I don't read the sports supplements on Sunday morning.

Purely because I know it'll all just annoy me

[ozzjim]

Same here. I don't even watch other games anymore.