Poll - Sherwood - got rid

[dave.woodhall]

clampy and malandro sitting in a tree

Give it a rest

yeah but ok

I genuinely struggle to think of a poster who contributions are less interesting. It's an astounding accolade.

are you in the same tree

It mght be an idea if you said good evening and came back tomorrow.

[chippy]

I don't think we should have employed the bloke past the end of last season whether he kept us up or not. He's spent terribly and his tactics suck. He's an arrogant arse too. The problem is, with the transfer window shut, a disinterested owner and such a bad start, I don't see anyone that could turn it around. We need someone to take us back to basics. Someone to make us more defensive. If it means a load of one-nil and nil-nil games, so be it.

[ozzjim]

I  agree about basics. We need to be drilled into having positional awareness, and each player knowing their role and how they function within that. None of them outside of the back 4 seemed to know that today

[PaulWinch again]

Thing it's just patently obvious it needs to change now. He's had a quarter of this season and failed miserably, he's had a decent chance, but doesn't look like he's creating any coherent shape. On every level he has to go. He's not wholly responsible for our plight, that's years of mismanagement, but it's clear he isn't going to be able to get us where we need to be now.

[Toronto Villa]

The cost of relegation far outweighs whatever it might be to fire Sherwood. This was his last chance to salvage something so no shock that he'll be gone by Monday. I hope your right there JP, and that the name is someone that presents some hope and inspiration.

[villan from luton]

I don't think we should have employed the bloke past the end of last season whether he kept us up or not. He's spent terribly and his tactics suck. He's an arrogant arse too. The problem is, with the transfer window shut, a disinterested owner and such a bad start, I don't see anyone that could turn it around. We need someone to take us back to basics. Someone to make us more defensive. If it means a load of one-nil and nil-nil games, so be it.

In the owners defence, he appointed us and he kept us up, so I don't agree with him going last summer. I am unsure re signings as think there are some good players there tbh, but I will totally agree re tactics at times. I got lambasted after the Blues game when I suggested he had messed up with his formation at the start. I think I have been proven right, but take no satisfaction in that. I think Sherwood can be a good manager, but he had to accept his own mistakes at times.

[David_Nab]

Basically he kept us up whilst getting to the cup final  , he talked a good game and when we lost well it was due to losers in the team and he would sort it out ...

- Losing to a John Carver managed Newcastle
- Southampton 6-1
- Just about mustering a draw against an absolutely woeful QPR at home
- Losing to a relegated Burnely at home
- The cup final

All brushed aside , he kept us up ,,he got us to that final he just needs a preason and his own players.Well here we are mid October, 1 win all season with a team that changes every week whilst he tries something till it works.

Lets take today Gestede upfront alone where its clear he isn't the most talented with the ball at his feet so you need to make the best use of him by getting cross's into the box.We have little to no width and put few balls in the box he can head.We play Gil and Grealish behind a striker who isn't quick or mobile enough to make clever runs off the last defender or good enough to hold the ball up so they can run past him.WTF does he tell the players to do when its set up like that ?

How the hell do you decide to go 5 at the back with 2 strikers against stoke to a 4-2-3-1 against Chelsea ..

He is a great talker but he can't back it up ..and he needs to go.TBF i think all his talk of being a fighter etc is all just more talk he knows he is getting sacked an is just waiting for it and the pay off.

[villan from luton]

Basically he kept us up whilst getting to the cup final  , he talked a good game and when we lost well it was due to losers in the team and he would sort it out ...

- Losing to a John Carver managed Newcastle
- Southampton 6-1
- Just about mustering a draw against an absolutely woeful QPR at home
- Losing to a relegated Burnely at home
- The cup final

All brushed aside , he kept us up ,,he got us to that final he just needs a preason and his own players.Well here we are mid October, 1 win all season with a team that changes every week whilst he tries something till it works.

Lets take today Gestede upfront alone where its clear he isn't the most talented with the ball at his feet so you need to make the best use of him by getting cross's into the box.We have little to no width and put few balls in the box he can head.We play Gil and Grealish behind a striker who isn't quick or mobile enough to make clever runs off the last defender or good enough to hold the ball up so they can run past him.WTF does he tell the players to do when its set up like that ?

How the hell do you decide to go 5 at the back with 2 strikers against stoke to a 4-2-3-1 against Chelsea ..

He is a great talker but he can't back it up ..and he needs to go.TBF i think all his talk of being a fighter etc is all just more talk he knows he is getting sacked an is just waiting for it and the pay off.

I think you make good points, why we good all for it away to Chelsea and not at home to Stoke is very strange. I liked his bravado last season, but that can only go so far. I happen to think there are some talented players in that squad now and no I don't mean top 6 but just below that. When he said a little while back he expected us to be at 4 points I started to worry. He has messed up in a few games in team tactics and subs. He should be big enough to admit that.

[OzVilla]

I think he probably started losing the players after the Leicester debacle where he took zero responsibility, carried in on by then blaming players some more and finished the job this week with his words about not having players he wanted. This is going to end after  we lose against Swansea. Well later than it ought to be as per usual.

[ROBBO]

He has said all the players bought in were not his choices if he felt that strongly about it he should have resigned but of course they never do. Get rid of him now while there is still enough time for a decent manager to make a difference, i still cannot believe we are not bottom.

[ciggiesnbeer]

Time to go. Sorry Tim. Results are not there. Good luck in the future.

Next manager spend big Randy and bring in a proven foreign manager who is tactically smart enough to compete.

Not enthused by the idea of Moyes at all but I suppose he would be (marginally) a step up over Tim if we want to roll the dice with British again.

[Ian.]

Playing Ruddy up front with Gil and Jack behind is useless. A Mobile technically minded player needs to be playing ahead of them. Ruddy would be great with players like Young and Downing. To be honest we have replaced Bent with a lesser version.

To add, I'm not having a go at Ruddy, but you seriously have to question the manager with this signing and the way we are set out to play. He even dropped the only player who knows how to deliver a ball into Ruddy.

[villasjf]

Like TSM1 and TSM2 he looks like he has aged an awful lot he almost looked like he had been crying and looked broken in the press interview this club is becoming a graveyard for managers.

[Proposition Joe]

John Beck please

Don't we usually play lump it up to the big man anyway?  Perhaps the one piece of the puzzle we're missing is growing the grass really long in the corners.

[aj2k77]

Like TSM1 and TSM2 he looks like he has aged an awful lot he almost looked like he had been crying and looked broken in the press interview this club is becoming a graveyard for managers.

The club is a graveyard for useless managers. We find them out, they underestimate the size of the job.