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Offline Ads

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2325 on: October 15, 2015, 12:11:57 PM »
Take this as you will, but I heard this morning that the club have already put feelers out for their preferred candidate to replace Sherwood, and it's not Rodgers.

Any more hints? Like, at a guess, do you think I would be happy with their choice? (Spoiler alert: if he's Scottish, I won't be.)

Racist!

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2326 on: October 15, 2015, 12:15:56 PM »
For me Tim isn't a terrible manager but he's a very limited one at this point. The big issue is that, again, the last few months have shown a mismatch between different parts of the club and a lack of joined-up thinking, to use that horrible phrase, which has highlighted his weaknesses.

He's a meat and potatoes kind of coach, happiest when working with players and formations he knows. Hence, although everyone is mocking his alternative signings, I'm pretty sure that a team of spurs cast offs getting whipped up by TS and playing in their preferred positions would have got much better results for him this season.

Instead he's got the task of getting a young, brand new squad with little league experience to gel. That job would be beyond many a more experienced manager.

He's also having to learn all their individual strengths and weaknesses and the nuances of how to manage them and he doesn't strike me as a bloke who would either A. enjoy spending hundreds of hours poring over DVDs of Ligue 1 games or B. adopt a sympathetic and understanding view of foreign players having to settle in.

The other thing is that despite his comments about being best when cornered, or whatever he said, I think he's the opposite. Fragile ego, good when on a roll but prone to evaporating self belief if not. You can see in his face now that the lack of control behind the scenes, combined with poor form, have robbed him of his swagger.

I'm not saying he deserves sympathy as he knew the terms when he signed his contract but, on our side, I think we've been guilty of hiring the wrong man for the very specific job he has in front of him / framework that he's working within. Bottom line is if you want TS as manager, let him buy Townsend and Lennnon.

Ironically, given Krulak's comments about Randy taking a long term view with managers, I think TS was a very good short term appointment as he kept us up. But he's clearly the wrong man for the next phase so the sooner we get rid the better.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2327 on: October 15, 2015, 12:16:49 PM »
The main problem I have with Sherwood is that he does not have a Law degree.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2328 on: October 15, 2015, 12:19:50 PM »
Take this as you will, but I heard this morning that the club have already put feelers out for their preferred candidate to replace Sherwood, and it's not Rodgers.

Let's hope it's Moyes. He'll sort this mess out.

Agreed with bells on.

Never has a manger been more suited or qualified to undertake the job of propelling Aston Villa up the table.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2329 on: October 15, 2015, 12:23:17 PM »
Take this as you will, but I heard this morning that the club have already put feelers out for their preferred candidate to replace Sherwood, and it's not Rodgers.

Let's hope it's Moyes. He'll sort this mess out.

Agreed with bells on.

Never has a manger been more suited or qualified to undertake the job of propelling Aston Villa up the table.

I agree - but does he have an LLB?

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2330 on: October 15, 2015, 12:34:20 PM »
Just went to put a bet on Sherwood next manager to depart.

Tim is 6/4. McClaren 3/1.

Could McClaren go this weekend? Both look to be hanging on by a thread.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2331 on: October 15, 2015, 12:37:39 PM »
The general said Randy Pandy has always wanted continuity. So aside from the MON/GH/TSM U turns in management styles why didn't he give KMac or GMac the job permanently when they were already in place. I'm not saying I personally would have wanted that but it would have fitted his supposed 'plan'/'ambition'.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2332 on: October 15, 2015, 12:42:59 PM »
The main problem I have with Sherwood is that he does not have a Law degree.
But he does have a contract until 2018, which will still cost Randy a couple of million.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2333 on: October 15, 2015, 12:48:12 PM »
The main problem I have with Sherwood is that he does not have a Law degree.
But he does have a contract until 2018, which will still cost Randy a couple of million.


Unless there's clauses in there, perhaps?

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2334 on: October 15, 2015, 12:48:36 PM »
The general said Randy Pandy has always wanted continuity. So aside from the MON/GH/TSM U turns in management styles why didn't he give KMac or GMac the job permanently when they were already in place. I'm not saying I personally would have wanted that but it would have fitted his supposed 'plan'/'ambition'.

We've had continuity that's for sure

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2335 on: October 15, 2015, 12:51:32 PM »
I don't dislike Tim.
The problem is he is a young, inexperienced manager, learning his trade at the very highest, most pressurised level.
Unless he is some kind of prodigy (which he obviously isn't), then he is massively, gigantically, hugely, out of his depth.
He should be learning his trade in the lower leagues, with the hope of being a success and eventually attaining the highest level.
Yet again, by appointing a manager into a job that is far, far above his ability and experience, the Aston Villa management team have proven themselves incapable of making a sensible, coherent decision in the very best interests of the club.

Of course I want Sherwood gone, I don't want a rookie manager learning by his mistakes at our expense.
But, I struggle to have faith that the powers that be will make the right decisions, if and when they realise the scale of their own monumental (constant) fuck ups.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2336 on: October 15, 2015, 12:53:12 PM »
I am really torn on this.

On the one hand I don't "want" another manager sacked, especially after such a short time.

On the other hand, I want this cack to end. 

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2337 on: October 15, 2015, 01:26:23 PM »
The main problem I have with Sherwood is that he does not have a Law degree.
But he does have a contract until 2018, which will still cost Randy a couple of million.


Unless there's clauses in there, perhaps?

Yes, he is starting to look like Lambert did towards the end.  He might have the "we can get rid of you for x amount at any time we are in the relegation zone" clause.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2338 on: October 15, 2015, 02:32:25 PM »
The general said Randy Pandy has always wanted continuity. So aside from the MON/GH/TSM U turns in management styles why didn't he give KMac or GMac the job permanently when they were already in place.

Please phone Nicola Keyes and she'll be happy to help you with your question.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #2339 on: October 15, 2015, 02:39:27 PM »
I was told no names, but the inference was he was the other obvious candidate.

Be careful what we wish for......


 


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