Poll - Sherwood - got rid

[ozzjim]

I did at first. Post Lambert freedom.

[Ian.]

I think many of us felt the energy and enthusiasm from him. The team started to play with belief, TC looked good and Benteke started scoring again. It didn't last that long and we marginally stayed up. I believed after the cup final our end of season form was down to us running out of steam and we would begin this season with a plan and push on.

I'm all for giving people a chance but my gut feeling is Sherwood is not up to it. I'd get rid before Chelsea. If he is behind these little sound bites in the press it must be like poison to the new players.

[silhillvilla]

Get chelsea out the way then pull the inevitable trigger.

[saunders_heroes]

The funny thing is, with time, I've got a bit of sympathy with all of the managers. They have all taken over an organisation with a bad stink about it.
Anyway who has worked in similar will know it. Low morale, not knowing what is coming next, cost cutting and constant employee turnover.

It saps you.

I think this is about right. All our managers since O'Neill walked out have been unmitigated disasters but I have a little sympathy for them all, mainly because of the shit they've had to deal with from a chairman who clearly didn't give a fuck about the club and wanted it run in a shoestring. The laughable "young and hungry" era was probably the worst of the lot. You can't expect a PL club to pack out their team with lower league shit and expect it to compete with the big boys and of course we didn't.
Lerner has done so much damage to our club over these last 5 years and the sooner he's gone the better. Let's just hope we keep our PL status in the meantime.

[OCD]

He is clearly peddling this story and deflecting blame now. He can feel the heat on the back of his neck.

Didn't he say that he was at his strongest when backed into a corner. And there was me thinking he was talking about football.

His actual quote used his name in the third person, which he's since repeated. There's probably no quicker way for someone to announce that they're a twat when they do that. In truth it was the Liverpool game where his tactics lost my support in a single game but those quotes  must have been around the same time.

[old man villa fan]

The thing that gets me about the article (and I not saying what is in it is not right) and others like it is what it does not say. It is trying to make a point rather than being balanced.
What everyone should realise is that the summer transfer window today has changed football management dramatically. With clubs looking to change so many players in a limited period, the manager does not have the time to look after everything involved with buying players. He has to concentrate on preseason training and getting the team ready for the new season. The only way it works for a manager is if deals are tied up at the end of the previous season.
Sherwood did not help himself by saying that he was having a clear out. He knew that Benteke, Vlaar and Cleverly were going, although Delph was possibly sprung on him but what did he actually do before the start of preseason. It looks as though he finalised a deal for Richards only. If the article said that he had no money to spend other than from outgoing transfers, people would be a bit more sympathetic.
Things that the article failed to mention that would have given it a bit of balance are that Richards and Lescott were his men and probably Gestede too, Adebayor would have been his idea, he spoke about getting better value on experience from overseas, had been tracking Traore for a number of years, did not tackle weaknesses in the team and those are just a few things off the top of my head.
I think that Villa are no different from most other clubs in that the manager outlines what positions he needs new players for and leaves the scouts to find them and then he has the final say on them.
One thing I forgot to mention and so did the article, what about the clear out, how many players did he manage to get rid of.
As with most media reports, the truth is in what is not said, not what is reported.

[Gareth]

Get the feeling that come Monday we may well be cursing wasting the 2 week international break to find a new manager.  Once this bickering starts its up to the club to stop it festering

[ChicagoLion]

Lerner does not even select the manager, so relax. Merely because they can say "Lerner,"and thus  think that they have attained the Holy Grail of polysyllabism, all the nitwits who criticize the owner on this point just like to think of themselves as saying something meaningful. Trust me when I tell you that you have not. We get it; you think Lerner's appointments have sucked. In the case of McLeish, you are right, but the others are defensible and were never Lerner's alone anyway. You are boring; please stop wasting people's time with your drivel.

Who are you? And what have you got to do with anything anyway? Your post is complete drivel.

No need for the Drivel comments by either of you. But sorry Pelty Lerner owns the club and  has over all responsibility for the club, that comes with ownership, you cant own something and not be responsible for it. The sequence of Managerial decisions have been a disaster including not taking action Lambert, allowing too much control MON and the less said about Mcleish the better. We are in this situation because of serial miss-management.

[pbavfckuwait]

Sherwood is the prime example of a modern day footballer who then becomes a manager, he will do what a lot of ex-players do, look for an excuse that deflects blame from anyone but themselves, they have been coddled as a player and the need to take responsibility for your own cluster fucks never enters their minds.

He will go on to be a television pundit, where they can sit in their exalted position and tell all and sundry how it should be done, after never managing to do it when they had the chance.

As for who's next, here's a left field thought, there is a guy who if you believe the media is being groomed for great things and to take over the incumbent managers job when his contract ends, but the club involved will probably look towards Ancelloti or Pep, why not see if Ryan Giggs is interested I know he is a modern day player, but I don't think anyone could ever question his attitude to being a top pro, no one can say he does not know the prem, just a thought.

[ozzjim]

I would sooner have Karl Robinson than Giggs as he has at least managed for a few years. We need someone who knows how how to handle management and has got a tactical brain that has had chance to develop so they are not experimenting at Villa. I can't see how Rodgers or Moyes if available won't be next.

[Mister E]

The massive point being missed though is these summer signings look very good. It's the haphazard way our manager is going about trying crazy formations, tactics and inconsistent personal on the pitch which is the problem.
To me the two guys doing the purchasing have done a bloody good job this summer.

Absolutely right, and the two examples in the article - Ajax and Liverpool - demonstrate the workings of the transfer system. Experts are hired to identify and purchase players; managers are expected to be able to motivate and tactically deploy those players.
As I see it, our transfer committee has done its job ....

[Malandro]

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/10/15/aston-villa-director-general-charles-krulak-makes-comment-about/

[rob_bridge]

So the tit for tat has begun in earnest, this is Sherwood protecting himself against what now appears to be the inevitable end. I am not saying the article is wrong to me it smacks of the truth but any manager is able at any time to wave goodbye if he feels he has been short sided. Lets get this over quickly.

Oh yes. The fact he has used the media to gob off again, when if you believe what has been written gave him 2 games, takes that down to 1. Oh dear.

They should have sat down this week and worked out a package.

Nope they should have sat down the day after the Stoke debacle and worked out a package

[Malandro]

Looks like Pelty has got Chuck out of his man cave.

[Monty]

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/10/15/aston-villa-director-general-charles-krulak-makes-comment-about/

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