Quote from: Billy Walker on October 14, 2015, 08:15:02 AMQuote from: pelty on October 14, 2015, 07:35:30 AMLerner does not even select the manager, so relax. Merely because they can say "Lerner,"and thus think that they have attained the Holy Grail of polysyllabism, all the nitwits who criticize the owner on this point just like to think of themselves as saying something meaningful. Trust me when I tell you that you have not. We get it; you think Lerner's appointments have sucked. In the case of McLeish, you are right, but the others are defensible and were never Lerner's alone anyway. You are boring; please stop wasting people's time with your drivel.The appointment of Houllier was indefensible. A guy with a serious heart condition! I remember at the time he was unveiled thinking this was a huge risk and certainly not a long term thing. How could it be? It was madness and reckless in equal measure.absolute garbage, he has a heart problem which had been operated on, that doesn't mean he should be thrown onto the scrap heap as your suggestingyou will obviously point to the fact the problem re occured as the proof of how bad the decision was, but I would point out there are many people who have had serious heart problems who are back in work operating at the highest level and pressure in whatever industry they happen to be in after being treated and operated onyou call it madness and reckless I would call it brave and thoughtful and Villa should have been congratulated to have given Houlier a go given his health history, it didn't work out so that gives you a platform to write people with heart problems off, but I would rather give them a chance than and at least give them a chance to show what they can do
Quote from: pelty on October 14, 2015, 07:35:30 AMLerner does not even select the manager, so relax. Merely because they can say "Lerner,"and thus think that they have attained the Holy Grail of polysyllabism, all the nitwits who criticize the owner on this point just like to think of themselves as saying something meaningful. Trust me when I tell you that you have not. We get it; you think Lerner's appointments have sucked. In the case of McLeish, you are right, but the others are defensible and were never Lerner's alone anyway. You are boring; please stop wasting people's time with your drivel.The appointment of Houllier was indefensible. A guy with a serious heart condition! I remember at the time he was unveiled thinking this was a huge risk and certainly not a long term thing. How could it be? It was madness and reckless in equal measure.
Lerner does not even select the manager, so relax. Merely because they can say "Lerner,"and thus think that they have attained the Holy Grail of polysyllabism, all the nitwits who criticize the owner on this point just like to think of themselves as saying something meaningful. Trust me when I tell you that you have not. We get it; you think Lerner's appointments have sucked. In the case of McLeish, you are right, but the others are defensible and were never Lerner's alone anyway. You are boring; please stop wasting people's time with your drivel.
I think there might have been a bit more good will towards houllier if he hadn't wanked off over Liverpool shortly after being appointed, whether or not he had to retire, or if he could've carried on. I thought at the time, he should've maybe moved upstairs in a kind of dof role and they could've given Mcallister a go in the managers job for a season.
Quote from: pelty on October 14, 2015, 07:35:30 AMLerner does not even select the manager, so relax. Merely because they can say "Lerner,"and thus think that they have attained the Holy Grail of polysyllabism, all the nitwits who criticize the owner on this point just like to think of themselves as saying something meaningful. Trust me when I tell you that you have not. We get it; you think Lerner's appointments have sucked. In the case of McLeish, you are right, but the others are defensible and were never Lerner's alone anyway. You are boring; please stop wasting people's time with your drivel.I'll tell you what's boring, pelty. Five straight years of relegation battles. And only one man has presided over them all. But perhaps you can tell us, if it isn't Lerner who chooses the managers, who does? Is it Fox alone - a former commercial officer with limited knowledge of the actual game of football? Are we still writing letters to Sir Alex Ferguson? Which football expert helps us consistently appoint crap managers? Why do we keep on gambling with our Premier League status?
The average life expectancy for someone undergoing that type of heavy-duty surgery is 10 years.He had the surgery in 2001, so it was the very definition of risk. I'm glad he pulled through, the first time round and the second time. But it was idiotic of our board (Lerner) to dish out long-term contracts to someone in that situation.
I liked Houllier. He was blunt and undiplomatic at times, but that wasn't specific to his time with us.He went to university and started working as a school teacher, originally, and you could see that vaguely academic nature reflected in his managerial style. Exactly the sort of thoughtful profile I would have liked to see us stick with, rather than opting for the good old-fashioned, British up and at 'em, leave-your-brain-at-the-dressing-room door approach.
I agree with Pelty that the managerial appointments in isolation are generally defensible, except for McLeish. Lambert, who now looks like the worst in recent memory, made perfect sense at the time. I would question the lack of consistency and coherent strategy across managers though as I feel that has played a role in the lack of success.
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