Poll - Sherwood - got rid

[cheltenhamlion]

You could put 20p on every cup of tea if we showed a bit of bloody ambition.

[andyh]

Lerner has had what, 4 chances at appointing a high profile manager?
With the exception of Houllier, he has chosen not to go down that route.
If there is to be another chance, it doesn't seem likely that established, foreign and knowledgeable is the way he would go.

We can live in hope, but cheap and available seems most likely.

[silhillvilla]

You simply cannot trust Lerner. The mcleish appointment is the kind of mad thing that could happen again (well it kind of did with sherwood ).

[Ian.]

For those who would have settled for Big Sam I see his average win percentage is only 33%.

I'm glad he went to Sunderland and he's off the market.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/34513848

[pelty]

Lerner does not even select the manager, so relax. Merely because they can say "Lerner,"and thus  think that they have attained the Holy Grail of polysyllabism, all the nitwits who criticize the owner on this point just like to think of themselves as saying something meaningful. Trust me when I tell you that you have not. We get it; you think Lerner's appointments have sucked. In the case of McLeish, you are right, but the others are defensible and were never Lerner's alone anyway. You are boring; please stop wasting people's time with your drivel.

[Mister E]

Lerner does not even select the manager, so relax. Merely because they can say "Lerner,"and thus  think that they have attained the Holy Grail of polysyllabism, all the nitwits who criticize the owner on this point just like to think of themselves as saying something meaningful. Trust me when I tell you that you have not. We get it; you think Lerner's appointments have sucked. In the case of McLeish, you are right, but the others are defensible and were never Lerner's alone anyway. You are boring; please stop wasting people's time with your drivel.

whilst I understand your sentiment, you do yourself refer to 'Lerner's appointments' ... Which sort of undermines the point you're trying to make.

[PeterWithe]

Isn't it pushing it a bit to claim that RL's poor appointments at Executive level remove him from any responsibility for the subsequent poor appointments at playing level?

[Malandro]

Lerner does not even select the manager, so relax. Merely because they can say "Lerner,"and thus  think that they have attained the Holy Grail of polysyllabism, all the nitwits who criticize the owner on this point just like to think of themselves as saying something meaningful. Trust me when I tell you that you have not. We get it; you think Lerner's appointments have sucked. In the case of McLeish, you are right, but the others are defensible and were never Lerner's alone anyway. You are boring; please stop wasting people's time with your drivel.

This is why we suck and will continue to suck. Randy has tried, failed and appears to resent the fans. Well that's what it appears to me anyway.

[brian green]

Worse than that Mal, I don't think Randy Lerner understands the fans.  We are just part of the club's income stream.

[Billy Walker]

Lerner does not even select the manager, so relax. Merely because they can say "Lerner,"and thus  think that they have attained the Holy Grail of polysyllabism, all the nitwits who criticize the owner on this point just like to think of themselves as saying something meaningful. Trust me when I tell you that you have not. We get it; you think Lerner's appointments have sucked. In the case of McLeish, you are right, but the others are defensible and were never Lerner's alone anyway. You are boring; please stop wasting people's time with your drivel.

The appointment of Houllier was indefensible.  A guy with a serious heart condition!  I remember at the time he was unveiled thinking this was a huge risk and certainly not a long term thing.  How could it be?  It was madness and reckless in equal measure.

[rob_bridge]

Lerner does not even select the manager, so relax. Merely because they can say "Lerner,"and thus  think that they have attained the Holy Grail of polysyllabism, all the nitwits who criticize the owner on this point just like to think of themselves as saying something meaningful. Trust me when I tell you that you have not. We get it; you think Lerner's appointments have sucked. In the case of McLeish, you are right, but the others are defensible and were never Lerner's alone anyway. You are boring; please stop wasting people's time with your drivel.

The appointment of Houllier was indefensible.  A guy with a serious heart condition!  I remember at the time he was unveiled thinking this was a huge risk and certainly not a long term thing.  How could it be?  It was madness and reckless in equal measure.

Agree totally. It was stupid and irresponsible. Not to mention the recruitment of his sidekick who's achievements included being and assistance manager who had been sacked by Middlesborough in just that role.

McLeish is beyond the pale - anyone who makes, 30 years later, Graham Turner's appointment seem logical and sensible comparatively speaking beggars belief and will do until most of our dying days.

Lambert - based on where we were and what had gone before, no arguments from me. Not sacking him in summer 2014, though anytime March - December 2014 would have sufficed.

As for Sherwood well let's say there was and still is a healthy degree of skepticism which is likely to end one way. Sooner rather than later.

So 4 picks, 1 of which made sense (to me). All transpired to be Big F's. And 5 years later.....

[Jimbo]

Lerner does not even select the manager, so relax. Merely because they can say "Lerner,"and thus  think that they have attained the Holy Grail of polysyllabism, all the nitwits who criticize the owner on this point just like to think of themselves as saying something meaningful. Trust me when I tell you that you have not. We get it; you think Lerner's appointments have sucked. In the case of McLeish, you are right, but the others are defensible and were never Lerner's alone anyway. You are boring; please stop wasting people's time with your drivel.

I'll tell you what's boring, pelty. Five straight years of relegation battles. And only one man has presided over them all. But perhaps you can tell us, if it isn't Lerner who chooses the managers, who does? Is it Fox alone - a former commercial officer with limited knowledge of the actual game of football? Are we still writing letters to Sir Alex Ferguson? Which football expert helps us consistently appoint crap managers? Why do we keep on gambling with our Premier League status?

[Ads]

Beyond Sherwood, none of them were first choice picks, who ever made them.

Benitez, Martinez and Solskjaer were all wanted. The past is the past though and all it can do is shape our fears that they, whoever they are, won't get it right again.

He's right that Coopers Injury does spout a lot of drivel though.

[john e]

Lerner does not even select the manager, so relax. Merely because they can say "Lerner,"and thus  think that they have attained the Holy Grail of polysyllabism, all the nitwits who criticize the owner on this point just like to think of themselves as saying something meaningful. Trust me when I tell you that you have not. We get it; you think Lerner's appointments have sucked. In the case of McLeish, you are right, but the others are defensible and were never Lerner's alone anyway. You are boring; please stop wasting people's time with your drivel.

The appointment of Houllier was indefensible.  A guy with a serious heart condition!  I remember at the time he was unveiled thinking this was a huge risk and certainly not a long term thing.  How could it be?  It was madness and reckless in equal measure.

absolute garbage,
he has a heart problem which had been operated on, that doesn't mean he should be thrown onto the scrap heap as your suggesting
you will obviously point to the fact the problem re occured as the proof of how bad the decision was,
 but I would point out there are many people who have had serious heart problems who are back in work operating at the highest level and pressure in whatever industry they happen to be in after being treated and operated on

you call it madness and reckless I would call it brave and thoughtful and Villa should have been congratulated to have given Houlier a go given his health history,
it didn't work out so that gives you a platform to write people with heart problems off, but I would rather give them a chance than and at least give them a chance to show what they can do

[Hookeysmith]

Considering the way Pube head left us in the lurch I thought Houllier was an inspired and necessary appointment. Of course there was a risk with his health issues but no one would have known that more than Houllier. After a tough start I really started to see his methods getting through to the players. I remember against Man U when the likes of Bannon and Hogg ran the untied midfield ragged, some of the football we started to play was brilliant. Then his health issue came back. Considering the rumours of the potential targets he was after in the coming close season I think it would have been a brilliant 2nd season but we never got to know.
We have spiralled badly ever since