Poll - Sherwood - got rid

[silhillvilla]

...run with a caretaker manager for a week or so .

Who?

Kevin Macdonald

[ciggiesnbeer]

...run with a caretaker manager for a week or so .

Who?

Kevin Macdonald

That did not go well last time.

[silhillvilla]

...run with a caretaker manager for a week or so .

Who?

Kevin Macdonald

Just for a game maybe two. You'd like to think we have our targets lined up.

That did not go well last time.

[Dave]

I suspect Sherwood has been told he has two games to get us out of the relegation zone - he may have a clause too that enables us to sack him with less compensation if we are in the bottom three.

I'd be ok with Rodgers, but would really like to see Bielsa grab the club by the throat and shake us out of our nightmare.

I agree about Rodgers. He would probably be the first 'proper' manager we have had since MON.

How does that work? Sherwood aside, Rodgers has less management experience than anyone since O'Neill.

[kippaxvilla2]

I can't imagine what kind of good the two game story is going to do for either Sherwoods or team morale.  On that basis alone why prolong the inevitable.

[Steve67]

Who would want the job other than those currently out of work? Sure, plenty of up and comers but that has been tried before and got us nowhere. Villa need to act big if they want to be big/improve dramatically.

[puppyfeat]

Rodgers had a fair amount of stick on here during his time at Liverpool and now he's out of work, it seems he's a decent manager. I don't get it.

You could call it revisionist desperation, or desperate revisionism maybe. Whatever, the fact is we're in the shit and the fear we all share is that our situation could be a lot worse quite soon, so it's understandable.

I don't think Rodgers is anything special but Im sure he's bettter than what we have at the moment, so I'd take him. However I'm not so sure he'd join us - at least not for a while. I can well imagine he's monitoring the Chelsea situation and if that doesn't improve soon, hoping they'll give Jose the push. If that happened then Rodgers would certainly consider he'd be in with a good chance of taking over there, given the fact that he worked there previously and also because there aren't that many obvious and unemployed managers of the calibre Chelsea would want.

I would have more chance of the Chelsea job than Rogers has now

Yep, I can't for the life of me see Rodgers replacing Mourinho.

Maybe not, but I bet you didn't think Chelsea would appoint Avram Grant, Roberto DiMatteo or Rafa Benitez either!

[Dante Lavelli]

I can never understand why we have this "We need to spend £x" argument. You don't need to spend a single penny if the deals you do are astute enough.

Exactly, a well run club should, over a reasonable number of seasons, pretty much break even, there's been loads of comments from people about Swansea and Southampton, 2 clubs that have spent very little over the last 2-3 seasons.  The sky-fueled obsession with how much teams are spending (as if it's some indicator of the quality of the league) has completely warped the perspective of what a transfer window is about.

Thank you for expressing my views so succinctly. 

The journalist Rafael Hoinigstein (I think) often talks about how he is bewildered by the "success' of the premier league being measured by the record breaking amounts of money we spend each transfer window.  His argument, and the general perception in Germany, is that this is an indication of the failure of the system if you have to spend money to bail yourself out. 

[Dante Lavelli]

Who would want the job other than those currently out of work? Sure, plenty of up and comers but that has been tried before and got us nowhere. Villa need to act big if they want to be big/improve dramatically.

Luckily there are lots of good mangers out of work at the moment.  Bielsa, Prandelli and even Rodgers were way beyond what we could have imagined when we appointed Sherwood. 

[Dante Lavelli]

Can the two Sherwood threads be merged?
One has a poll, but otherwise aren't they pretty much the same?

[Dave]

Can the two Sherwood threads be merged?
One has a poll, but otherwise aren't they pretty much the same?

I was thinking that a few days ago - but I think both have gone too far now.

If we merge them then it'll arrange the whole thing chronologically. So a quick reply on one thread might now have four other arguments about a result or (more likely) a fish based punathon interspersed.

So I reckon they're probably best left separate at this stage.

[four fornicholl]

Can the two Sherwood threads be merged?
One has a poll, but otherwise aren't they pretty much the same?

ive just been merged and I agree

[four fornicholl]

Can the two Sherwood threads be merged?
One has a poll, but otherwise aren't they pretty much the same?

I was thinking that a few days ago - but I think both have gone too far now.

If we merge them then it'll arrange the whole thing chronologically. So a quick reply on one thread might now have four other arguments about a result or (more likely) a fish based punathon interspersed.

So I reckon they're probably best left separate at this stage.

oh so it was you

[Dave]

Can the two Sherwood threads be merged?
One has a poll, but otherwise aren't they pretty much the same?

I was thinking that a few days ago - but I think both have gone too far now.

If we merge them then it'll arrange the whole thing chronologically. So a quick reply on one thread might now have four other arguments about a result or (more likely) a fish based punathon interspersed.

So I reckon they're probably best left separate at this stage.

oh so it was you

What was?

[Damo70]

Who would want the job other than those currently out of work? Sure, plenty of up and comers but that has been tried before and got us nowhere. Villa need to act big if they want to be big/improve dramatically.

Luckily there are lots of good mangers out of work at the moment.  Bielsa, Prandelli and even Rodgers were way beyond what we could have imagined when we appointed Sherwood.

I will admit that at one point when we were changing managers (don't ask me when, all of the years of change have blurred into one for me) and Rodgers was at Swansea he was the man for me. But he is another Lambert. Half a dozen managerial jobs and has only excelled at one club in my opinion. Same as Lambert. The problem is there is no 'messiah' in the form of SGT, BFR or MON who we all knew from the start would improve our situation. So we sack Sherwood, and I admit I have mixed feelings at the moment. Who do we get in? Allardyce has gone to Sunderland and he would have been an appointment that would have seriously divided opinion on here anyway. I see the problem but I honestly don't see the solution.