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Offline VillaAlways

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1860 on: October 09, 2015, 10:08:51 PM »
I actually think Rodgers would be our best bet. I think there's a decent coach/tactician in there, possibly best demonstrated in his Swansea spell. I certainly wouldn't be unhappy if we were to get him in.
Id imagine Rodgers will take a break now to be honest I very much doubt he will just dive into a rekegation battle now.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1861 on: October 09, 2015, 10:28:46 PM »
I actually think Rodgers would be our best bet. I think there's a decent coach/tactician in there, possibly best demonstrated in his Swansea spell. I certainly wouldn't be unhappy if we were to get him in.
Agree Des, I think he's gone on record though as saying he's taking some time off now.

He's got two games. That's enough rest surely?

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1862 on: October 09, 2015, 11:22:31 PM »
See I read all of those things said by JFH of Burton and think surely Tim Sherwood, captain of PL champions Blackburn must believe all of that. Been there and done it. And yet here we are doing just about the opposite to stunning effect.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1863 on: October 09, 2015, 11:36:30 PM »
Premier league experienced managers worth getting
Rodgers
Laudrup
Pearson

I see Sherwood no better than poyet or di canio. Steve kean was particularly awful but the others were established players so got away with some kudos when all they did was inspire their teams for a few games. Keegan type managers who motivate then novelty wears off.
The likes of mulenstean at Fulham a few years ago did nothing to prove a good coach can take on a team as Sherwood and Ramsey

Bilic and ranieri are foreign coaches who doing well so could explore that market and koeman has been impressive so a manager like these would be worth taking.

Quique flores could go either way and advocat was unlucky. I think a manager who can deal with these french players like Remy garde and maybe ginola as attacking coach Glenn hoddle involved too with his youth and French knowledge. If not laudrup or rodgers or pearson. Add Merson rather than ginola could be more realistic and maybe steve Clark to step in after hoddle with Remy garde is too risky. I'd rather have set up like that with some flair .

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1864 on: October 09, 2015, 11:44:53 PM »
we can slag him off as much as we want
but im watching England tonight. theyre playing
with no fkn idea, formation or tactics
but still winning!!
I don't like saying it but I think its all down to our players
they appear to me to be SHITE

I see what you're doing but there's no flow.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1865 on: October 09, 2015, 11:45:46 PM »
Premier league experienced managers worth getting
Rodgers
Laudrup
Pearson

I see Sherwood no better than poyet or di canio. Steve kean was particularly awful but the others were established players so got away with some kudos when all they did was inspire their teams for a few games. Keegan type managers who motivate then novelty wears off.
The likes of mulenstean at Fulham a few years ago did nothing to prove a good coach can take on a team as Sherwood and Ramsey

Bilic and ranieri are foreign coaches who doing well so could explore that market and koeman has been impressive so a manager like these would be worth taking.

Quique flores could go either way and advocat was unlucky. I think a manager who can deal with these french players like Remy garde and maybe ginola as attacking coach Glenn hoddle involved too with his youth and French knowledge. If not laudrup or rodgers or pearson. Add Merson rather than ginola could be more realistic and maybe steve Clark to step in after hoddle with Remy garde is too risky. I'd rather have set up like that with some flair .


I note with interest your assertion that "Quique flores could go either way" and you may rest assured that Messrs. Sue, Grabbit and Runne are on the case.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1866 on: October 10, 2015, 12:00:32 AM »
This won't end well.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1867 on: October 10, 2015, 12:00:52 AM »
we can slag him off as much as we want
but im watching England tonight. theyre playing
with no fkn idea, formation or tactics
but still winning!!
I don't like saying it but I think its all down to our players
they appear to me to be SHITE

Or the alternative interpretation is that you can be a god awful manager with no tactics and totally out of date ideas about the game but if you've got a squad that's far better than the opposition you'll get away with it but as soon as you come up against squads closer to you're own level you'll look lost.  If you look at like that and then consider that we beat Blues during this run of shit performances it fits better.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1868 on: October 10, 2015, 08:22:32 AM »
If we were to get rid now, surely we would have to go for someone really experienced.

Rodgers flopped at Liverpool and followed a successful manager and system at Swansea. Nobody knows if he's any good.

Laudrup hasn't got much more in his locker than that has he?

Pearson has had one season.

We should be doing what we'd never do, going all out for someone of really high calibre who has been there and done it.

All this talk of potential has done for us too many times.

With the right backing and promise from our owner,virtually any manager would come to us. The reality is that our owner won't do it.

These stories about the signings shows that we couldn't  (or wouldn't) get who Sherwood wanted and the ones chased by Reilly and the other chap are the better players.

So perhaps our new way is the better way and we got the manager wrong, or, as I'm hoping, perhaps we got that right too and it's taking him just a little longer than we'd hoped to get it going. He's done well with younger players before, so maybe we should give him a chance?

Remember the number of players signed, they are young,learning and a lot is expected and demanded of them in a big league with the big boys.




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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1869 on: October 10, 2015, 08:24:20 AM »
Drummond, can I ask where has dim Tim done well with younger players before? Is it the Spuds youth system?

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1870 on: October 10, 2015, 09:13:36 AM »
we can slag him off as much as we want
but im watching England tonight. theyre playing
with no fkn idea, formation or tactics
but still winning!!
I don't like saying it but I think its all down to our players
they appear to me to be SHITE

Or the alternative interpretation is that you can be a god awful manager with no tactics and totally out of date ideas about the game but if you've got a squad that's far better than the opposition you'll get away with it but as soon as you come up against squads closer to you're own level you'll look lost.  If you look at like that and then consider that we beat Blues during this run of shit performances it fits better.
exactly

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1871 on: October 10, 2015, 01:24:47 PM »
getting the right manager is just the luck of the draw, you can take any wish list and back it up with other managers that have done well to prove the point,
 but others will have failed everyone just uses the best ones to prove there own point, im no different, but what you really need is something indefinable to click and that comes with getting lucky

yes you can just do stupid things, like Mcliesh, but even he was experienced, and a winner !
Lambert was generaly well thought of, and many thought we had made a right move, but it didn't work out, same for MON,

look at Gary Monk, I think an inexperienced man taking over in a good set up is even more high pressure than having to start from scratch, but hes done well,
Rogers, experienced and out of a job, yet nearly won the league
Martinez, I love him yet last season he was rubbish again, this season so far he's turned it round
McLaren, very experienced, walking dead, yet when he was at Derby he looked graet
Mourinho, best in the world no doubt, eerrr   well maybe not
Ronald Koeman, just got lucky, im not saying there wasn't any thought going into the decision, but no one is guaranteed that someone comes straight in and does well

I don't know who would turn us into the next Southampton,Swansea but I do know we need to get a bit lucky, and all the boxes people like to tick to guarantee success are just bullshit, because nothing is for certain

apart from Pulis and big Sam will always plays absolute shite mind nubming football win nothing hardly ever get there clubs in the top half but always make sure they don't go down    now that is guaranteed


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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1872 on: October 10, 2015, 01:59:45 PM »
I haven't read the last few pages but it's hardly as though by getting rid of Sherwood that's the end of our problems.  I have absolutely zero faith whatsoever in the custodians of the club to get an appointment right. Their track record in this department isn't great is it. 

Of course we had no way of knowing how preferred choice Lambert was going to end up.  But Mcleish, Houllier, Sherwood?!  The very obvious choice to steady a ship would be Moyes so we can count that out for a start.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1873 on: October 10, 2015, 02:03:40 PM »
No more up and coming managers.

You cannot take suggestions seriously for managers whose experience amounts to running tiny, tin-pot outfits like Hasselbaink, Howe and Rowett with the extreme pressures and expectations of managing a club like us.
Yes ok but why  not appoint an  up and coming proper coach who did the right thing by pitching his tent in the lower league to learn rather than a sharp witted footballing village idiot?

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1874 on: October 10, 2015, 02:12:43 PM »
I haven't read the last few pages but it's hardly as though by getting rid of Sherwood that's the end of our problems.  I have absolutely zero faith whatsoever in the custodians of the club to get an appointment right. Their track record in this department isn't great is it. 

Of course we had no way of knowing how preferred choice Lambert was going to end up.  But Mcleish, Houllier, Sherwood?!  The very obvious choice to steady a ship would be Moyes so we can count that out for a start.

he's not steadying any ships in Spain, 6 points out of 7 games and 5 from bottom

 


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