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Offline Legion

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1845 on: October 09, 2015, 08:39:59 PM »
Clough at Forest.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1846 on: October 09, 2015, 08:49:20 PM »
It would be very easy to argue that the last shit 6 years are largely down to O'Neill's incompetence and arrogance.

That and Lerner. And for all the talk about the club needing an experienced manager, I would go one step further and say the club desperately needs experienced leaders at the top.

No it wouldnt, that argument would be ridiculous

The season (5 days) before he left was always going to be a struggle as he left a shambles behind.

But that was still a very good squad of players, a manager that took that side down should never have worked in the game again.

Part of the reason MON had to go was because our board irresponsibly gave him control of the purse strings

Southampton havent fallen apart, they keep getting rid of managers and players and keep the show on the road, Swansea too.

We cant keep blaming MON for the failings of his four successors, all woeful in their own right.

Sherwood is the worst of the lot though, I cant see him managing at any level after this gig finishes up.

There is a bigger problem regarding the culture of the club though, that goes back maybe 20 years or more that needs fixing.

It would take a superb manager to thrive at Villa like Taylor did first time.

Why did Brian Little ultimately fail at the club, where was the support for him when he needed it?

Paul Lambert looked completely overawed from day one, again where was the support structure to help him succeed?



I'm assuming you didn't bother reading the second paragraph.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1847 on: October 09, 2015, 08:53:46 PM »
Hasselbaink sounds like he's streets ahead of Sherwood already.

Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink says hard training is key to Burton's success

Burton Albion manager Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink believes his side are benefiting from a demanding training regime between matches.

The Brewers currently sit three points clear at the top of League One, a position Hasselbaink says is the direct result of hard work done on the training pitch.

"When we have no mid-week game, Tuesday is a hard working day for us. Something we've always done - 90 minutes of hard graft," explained the former Chelsea and Leeds striker.

"We need it. That football, that fitness, playing under stress, all of it is relevant to the game. Sometimes in a game, you are tired but the work and expectations don't stop.

"So why wouldn't you replicate that in training? And I appreciate the efforts of my players - they work hard for me, and for themselves."

"All I can control is to make us competitive on the pitch, and make sure the boys are ready for whatever might come their way in the next game. Enforce them to express themselves, enjoy themselves, and play the game with a smile on their face."

A typical Burton training session includes an hour of endurance running, agility exercises, strength work, and extended sprints; all interspersed with two-sided games, where Hasselbaink demands that the goalkeepers can't kick the ball, and 90% of passes should be on the ground.

Despite this, the 43 year-old, who twice won the Premier League's Golden Boot, admits that he would still rather be playing football than managing. 

"Yeah, because you miss that. Even when it's a tough session," he said.

"When you have to dig really deep and suffer, but afterwards you are so happy you've done it. You know the rewards. To know that, and experience that, it's nice.

"Sometimes you have to give that to the players - the information that once they retire, they will miss days like today, even though they're hurting now."

Hasselbaink's rigorous attitude towards training has proved successful since his arrival at the Pirelli Stadium. The former Netherlands international guided Burton to promotion last season, in his first job as a manager in England, leading to the club's first ever spell in League One.

Undaunted, with one defeat in 11 matches in all competitions, Burton are top of the table - the club's highest ever league position.

"I didn't come into this league with any expectations," admitted the Dutchman. 

"I just wanted to make sure we were prepared as much as possible, to be competitive. No targets, just be free spirited - in the right way, in that we are organised and turn up in every match."

Hasselbaink has since attracted interest from bigger clubs. Rotherham made an approach last week, which was turned down by Burton.

"Flattering, and rewarding for my staff," said Hasselbaink, who also moved to play down any premature talk of back-to-back promotions.

"No, we have only played 11 matches, that isn't 25% of the league yet, and so it's far too early to start thinking about things like that."

Burton's early success this season has been built on the back of a solid defensive unit. Whilst the Brewers have scored just 13 goals in 11 League One games, they've conceded just seven times - the second lowest in the division after Walsall.

"We do a lot of defensive work," explained Hasselbaink.

"I'm a big believer in that to be successful, you have to be organised and have a good defence. You don't become champions or successful with a team that gets a lot of goals against."

But does that come naturally to a player who always played with flair and freedom, and scored goals aplenty?

"You can still have that, need that," he says.

"But the game has changed - you need a tight unit. You need clean sheets. You need that to be successful. If you are too open, and have a club that says 'I don't care how many we concede, we will score one more': that's fine. But that's not me.

"The most important thing for me is to not concede goals. If we score some, happy days, but the most important thing is not to concede."


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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1848 on: October 09, 2015, 09:08:14 PM »
...but a club like Villa should not be appointing managers with potential that need time to learn. We need proven ability, now more than ever, because we're in the shit.

We did that with our previous (and I suppose current) CEO too, and Lerner has had more than enough time to learn...and where's the Chairman ?

I'm a bit pissed and lost here. Are you agreeing with me?

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1849 on: October 09, 2015, 09:10:49 PM »
...but a club like Villa should not be appointing managers with potential that need time to learn. We need proven ability, now more than ever, because we're in the shit.

We did that with our previous (and I suppose current) CEO too, and Lerner has had more than enough time to learn...and where's the Chairman ?

I'm a bit pissed and lost here. Are you agreeing with me?
Evening Ray  ;)

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1850 on: October 09, 2015, 09:12:04 PM »
Hasselbaink sounds like he's streets ahead of Sherwood already.

He's also the manager of Burton Albion.

Burton Albion.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1851 on: October 09, 2015, 09:18:02 PM »
we can slag him off as much as we want
but im watching England tonight. theyre playing
with no fkn idea, formation or tactics
but still winning!!
I don't like saying it but I think its all down to our players
they appear to me to be SHITE

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1852 on: October 09, 2015, 09:22:51 PM »
Hasselbaink sounds like he's streets ahead of Sherwood already.

He's also the manager of Burton Albion.

Burton Albion.
Doing his apprenticeship, earning his stripes. Instead of a microwave PL manager like we have

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1853 on: October 09, 2015, 09:24:51 PM »
I'm a bit pissed and lost here. Are you agreeing with me?

I'm saying that it's not just managers that are hired without experience but our current and previous CEO's as well - that's a risk we shouldn't be taking. If Lerner had appointed the Chairman he promised us, and you would hope that he gets someone in with boat-loads of football experience at that level, then at least we would have someone at the helm with one clear vision for the club.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1854 on: October 09, 2015, 09:35:39 PM »
I'd laugh my balls off if we went down the road and nicked another manager from the club that bears the city's name
And in fairness what he's done with them since he took over is as close to polishing a turd as your going to get

so he doesn't tick every box, but it wouldn't be an end of the world appointment either


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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1855 on: October 09, 2015, 09:40:09 PM »
Not sure about Rowett just yet, I mean even we managed to beat them and keep a clean sheet.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1856 on: October 09, 2015, 09:46:44 PM »
Gary fucking Rowett... come on, there's a world out there.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1857 on: October 09, 2015, 09:56:56 PM »
Somebody who knows how to play good football please. When was the last time you saw a relegated side and said 'yeah, but their football was brilliant to watch'?

Someone who knows how to get results please.  The good football can come later.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1858 on: October 09, 2015, 10:02:43 PM »
I actually think Rodgers would be our best bet. I think there's a decent coach/tactician in there, possibly best demonstrated in his Swansea spell. I certainly wouldn't be unhappy if we were to get him in.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1859 on: October 09, 2015, 10:05:53 PM »
I actually think Rodgers would be our best bet. I think there's a decent coach/tactician in there, possibly best demonstrated in his Swansea spell. I certainly wouldn't be unhappy if we were to get him in.
Agree Des, I think he's gone on record though as saying he's taking some time off now.

 


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