Poll - Sherwood - got rid

[Toronto Villa]

I think overall the players are just fine. The manager, be it Sherwood or the next one needs to use them better. We've all seen what they can do, at their previous clubs and periodically with us. There is a lot of talent there and potential of used well. Sherwood is giving up on things too quickly and has made erratic decisions that have created uncertainty and volatility in our play. Leicester is a fine example of that. Don't try to be clever. Sometimes the simple things are the ones that work best.

[PaulWinch again]

Sherwood should have two more games to turn in round and that should be it.

[PaulWinch again]

The players are fine, but they need someone to give them some sort of coherant instruction.

[Dave]

Sherwood has said all along that the final decision on players is his. I also heard Ray Wilkins say on Talksport not long ago that Sherwood knew a lot of young players across europe and the player's he's brought in does kind of back this up. I'm sure there are players amongst the 14 that were offered to him and he's took on board but let's face it, we were all delighted when these signing's were flying through the door a couple of months ago.

I don't think it really matters too much. If it's Sherwood individually picking them that's fine, if it's somebody else identifying the type of players that the manager wants and then signing them with everybody's agreement then that's fine. I think it's far more likely to be the latter, but neither of those scenarios causes a problem.

It only becomes an issue if we're buying players that the manager doesn't want to use (like Jol/Comolli at Spurs). In which case, it's all a bit pointless. 

I'm still extremely happy with the players that we signed. Even on what they've shown so far, that's still better than having Townsend and Lennon instead. I'd just like us to be using them all a bit better.

[PeterWithesShin]

let's face it, we were all delighted when these signing's were flying through the door a couple of months ago.

Were we? some of us were questioning whether they were good enough to play at Premier League level
 

Ok maybe everyone on here, but there was an overall air of excitement at these promising players coming in. Look back at the indivdual threads and you'll see what I mean.

At the same time, much as we like to think we're experts, we are just enthusiastic amateurs. Most were very happy we signed Zog. Same with Ireland, with more than a few saying we'd got the better of the deal with Man City. Let's not forget what was said about Benteke after he signed and the first couple of months he played. The absolute pasting the club took a year ago for not having Vlaar signed to a new contract. And so on.

I will add that overall I was, and still am, very happy with our summer business.

[Des Little]

Sherwood should have two more games to turn in round and that should be it.

Agreed.  Any later than that and it could be too late, even at this stage of the season.

[Dave]

At the same time, much as we like to think we're experts, we are just enthusiastic amateurs.

Apart from footyskillz of course.

He actually is a proper, bona fide expert.

[SamTheMouse]

I don't think it really matters too much. If it's Sherwood individually picking them that's fine, if it's somebody else identifying the type of players that the manager wants and then signing them with everybody's agreement then that's fine. I think it's far more likely to be the latter, but neither of those scenarios causes a problem.

It only becomes an issue if we're buying players that the manager doesn't want to use (like Jol/Comolli at Spurs). In which case, it's all a bit pointless. 

I'm still extremely happy with the players that we signed. Even on what they've shown so far, that's still better than having Townsend and Lennon instead. I'd just like us to be using them all a bit better.

I get the impression the thinking hasn't been very joined up, and that Sherwood had less of a hand in signing these players than we've been given to understand.

It seems perfectly plausible that Sherwood wanted to bring in Lennon and Townsend. Based on his limited experience, he obviously likes his teams to cross the ball to the big man. We don't really have any out and out, old fashioned wingers who get to the by-line, but those two players would fit the bill. As it is, he's trying to get Amavi and Hutton to provide all the width and the crosses to Gestede, but I suspect if he had gotten his way with Lennon and Townsend, the team might look a bit more coherent (although possibly not a lot more effective).

I'm not one for giving credence to anything printed in the Daily Heil, but I strongly suspect Sherwood was counting on having those players, and is now fuming because he doesn't have the personnel to implement the only game plan he really knows, and is consequently preparing to chuck the toys out of the pram.

[Dave]

It seems perfectly plausible that Sherwood wanted to bring in Lennon and Townsend. Based on his limited experience, he obviously likes his teams to cross the ball to the big man. We don't really have any out and out, old fashioned wingers who get to the by-line, but those two players would fit the bill. As it is, he's trying to get Amavi and Hutton to provide all the width and the crosses to Gestede, but I suspect if he had gotten his way with Lennon and Townsend, the team might look a bit more coherent (although possibly not a lot more effective).

I'm not one for giving credence to anything printed in the Daily Heil, but I strongly suspect Sherwood was counting on having those players, and is now fuming because he doesn't have the personnel to implement the only game plan he really knows, and is consequently preparing to chuck the toys out of the pram.

Agree on all counts - if that's the case, that's where the problems come.

If Sherwood has said to Reilly "I want two old-fashioned, get-chalk-on-yer-boots style wingers who are nippy and will run past somebody and zip a cross on - how about Lennon and Townsend at Spurs?" and Reilly brings him Ayew and Sinclair, then it's no surprise that he can't get the team to play like he wants them to play. And if so, it makes the original appointment of Sherwood even more absurd if he was expected to build a team in a style that he's not comfortable with.

It would be rubbish watching Townsend and Lennon bundling shit cross after shit cross into the Holte, but at least they might be doing it with a clear plan in mind because the manager knows what to do with them.

[Villa in Denmark]

From what I saw of Lennon at the weekend, bundling a cross anywhere might be a bit beyond him these days. He took shit to a level only usually found in Minworth.

[spk]

Word on Twitter is that Pearson has been spotted leaving BH and in a pub in Sutton,God I hope its not true.

[Monty]

Word on Twitter is that Pearson has been spotted leaving BH and in a pub in Sutton,God I hope its not true.

Of course it isn't.

[PeterWithesShin]

It would be more bringing in Ayew and Adama as Sinclair was already here. And I wouldn't swap any of them for Townsend or Lennon. Even if what Dave and Sam suggest is pretty close to reality, which is certainly plausible, then it still doesn't reflect well on Sherwood that he appears incapable of having any other style of play that he's confident he can get the team playing even moderately successfully.

[Clampy]

Word on Twitter is that Pearson has been spotted leaving BH and in a pub in Sutton,God I hope its not true.

Of course it isn't.

What, the BH bit or a pub in Sutton?

[PeterWithesShin]

Yeah bring in Nigel Pearson as he handles pressure well. Bring back Roy Keane as his assistant as well.