Poll - Sherwood - got rid

[nick harper]

I reckon we'll look back on this fortnight break at the end of the season and realise we should have made the change then.

[tony scott]

He's not for the chop he hasn't even had the boards vote of confidence yet.

[Nastylee]

No way he'll be sacked. Won't even be on the agenda.

[David_Nab]

Him saying he hadn't seen the players he brought live seems to me a case of getting his excuses out there now for when he is sacked 'not my fault I didn't buy them players ''....

As for experience , he has been in the professional game for 20 odd years and is 46 years old , im over 10 years younger than him and played a handful of times at sunday league level yet I can tell you that 5 at the back against Stoke at home is a shit formation.It's not experience he just doesn't have a clue.

[Hookeysmith]

I want him to succeed I really do but I cannot for the life of me think of anything but relegation with the current points that have been raised

Bizarre team selection and formations
Players playing well, even in cameo roles, dropped for the next game (Gil, Ayew, Grealish)
No Kozak
Seemingly out of form players picked every game (Westwood, Sinclair)
Clear lack of fitness
Clear lack of dead ball coaching

But most of all, just what happened to the ballsy, playing higher up the pitch, feed the strikers, pressing the other team exciting football that he started with

His games have descended into the bore fests that was Lamberk

[Clampy]

I'm still of the opinion he can turn it round. It's been a bloody woeful start but I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that we've gone if he stays.

[Villa in Denmark]

I'm still of the opinion he can turn it round. It's been a bloody woeful start but I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that we've gone if he stays.

Is there anything behind that Clampy, or is at a more Lambertesque "I just think we will"  (For once not trying to be arsey / sarky, just hoping someone can point me in the direction of something I've missed other than blind hope)

[Boz]

I'm still of the opinion he can turn it round. It's been a bloody woeful start but I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that we've gone if he stays.

I like your optimism Clampy, but he's stretching everyone to keep giving him some latitude. The board need to man up as Liverpool have and bite the bullet, although that also means having identified a sensible  replacement. Something they haven't done with their choices so far.

[Ads]

Using Liverpool as an example is bizarre. They give their manager millions and millions to spend and then sack him out of fear that Chelsea might sack Mourinho and get Klopp first.

[john e]

The same people moaning and whinging about how we are certainties for relegation are the same people who expected it and have been banging in about it the last 4 seasons, your saying exactly the same things word for word

So just as the board have got there decisions wrong so have those thinking we would be down by now,
What I'm saying is your (relegation doomsters) record is not that great, in fact 100% wrong so far! I have in no way written this season off just yet with or without Sherwood,

I don't think we will stick with Sherwood if things remain the same, so he will either turn it round or we will rely on a new manager to keep us up, either way I'm still hopefull,

mainly because we have a group of decent players, a bit of everything apart from a good striker, which is a big problem admittedly,
 Remember he did the seemingly impossible last year with a lot less time, so let's not lose faith just yet

[Dave]

Using Liverpool as an example is bizarre. They give their manager millions and millions to spend and then sack him out of fear that Chelsea might sack Mourinho and get Klopp first.

Rodgers has only been given millions and millions in the same way that Sherwood has - most of the money we spent was recouped through players sales, but so was most of the money that Liverpool spent.

[Ads]

Majority influence takes effect at time like these. With have no more or less data to assess than we did on Saturday, save emotion has now expired. We have a forum to talk, so these things begin to amplify as time passes.

It works both ways.

[Clampy]

I'm still of the opinion he can turn it round. It's been a bloody woeful start but I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that we've gone if he stays.

Is there anything behind that Clampy, or is at a more Lambertesque "I just think we will"  (For once not trying to be arsey / sarky, just hoping someone can point me in the direction of something I've missed other than blind hope)

I like what he did last season, let's face it, he even got Cleverely looking like a decent footballer and even Ferguson didn't do that.

There's 14 new faces, it's 8 games in and whilst we've been poor in some games, I don't think we've been  diabolically bad. I may be horribly wrong of course but let's not forget, there's a lot on here who thought Roy Keane had made a difference after we went top early on last season (me included) and look how that turned out. I just think it's a little too early, that's all.

[Boz]

Using Liverpool as an example is bizarre. They give their manager millions and millions to spend and then sack him out of fear that Chelsea might sack Mourinho and get Klopp first.

We all have our opinions Ads. My post was about the board making a decision about there manager, something Villa take a long time to do on past performance.

Who said they sacked Rodgers out of fear about Klopp going to Chelsea, only the media needing to make a story from the situation without I suspect much foundation.

[Villa in Denmark]

The same people moaning and whinging about how we are certainties for relegation are the same people who expected it and have been banging in about it the last 4 seasons, your saying exactly the same things word for word

So just as the board have got there decisions wrong so have those thinking we would be down by now,
What I'm saying is your (relegation doomsters) record is not that great, in fact 100% wrong so far! I have in no way written this season off just yet with or without Sherwood,

I don't think we will stick with Sherwood if things remain the same, so he will either turn it round or we will rely on a new manager to keep us up, either way I'm still hopefull,

mainly because we have a group of decent players, a bit of everything apart from a good striker, which is a big problem admittedly,
 Remember he did the seemingly impossible last year with a lot less time, so let's not lose faith just yet

Cross me off that list until last season.  Where stayed up by the skin off our teeth having ditched a manager that couldn't have worked out how to win a black eye in a boxing ring, let alone a football match.

I don't know what signs you've seen to think Sherwood has it within him to turn this season around.  I've not found anyone who could give a reason to keep him other than

Blind hope
Wouldn't be fair on him so soon
Small time / Newcastleesque to sack him soon.

I have blind hope over a number of things, but I don't actually expect any of them to come true
It wouldn't be fair on us to let him relegate us, and it wouldn't be fair to him to drive him down to the extent the job drove Lambert down.  In the end with Lambert it was almost a humanitarian decision to put him out of his misery and Sherwood looks like he's heading the same way.
Small time would be not sacking him because we were worried how it looked to the outside world and going down as a result.

Now has anyone got any footballing reasons to keep him that are more concrete than think/hope he'll turn it around?