Poll - Sherwood - got rid

[E I Adio]

Agree with all of that Ads.   I would only add to those basics Sherwood being told, by himself preferably to cut out once and for all the clever dick sound bites that simply insult the intelligence of the fans who have endured so much.

Could not agree more Brian

Well, right now I'm not sure his current sound bites are in any way clever. The word 'dick' is appropriate enough though.

[Clampy]

I'm still in the give him more time camp but he needs to pick a settled side and if possible, stick with it. We've lost 6 games this season and despite that, we're still only 4 points off the team above us. It's not an ideal situation obviously but it's not catastrophic. My only worry is though that the two week break might do Chelsea more good than us.

[in exile]

I'm still in the give him more time camp but he needs to pick a settled side and if possible, stick with it. We've lost 6 games this season and despite that, we're still only 4 points off the team above us. It's not an ideal situation obviously but it's not catastrophic. My only worry is though that the two week break might do Chelsea more good than us.

What could totally bugger us up is our internationals coming back injured (again)

[Vegas]

Me too (edit: in response to Clampy). I said before the Stoke game give him 6 more; well, he's had one (one of the easier ones too), and didn't advance his cause in tactics, performance or results terms.

Three things still making me think we should give him time:

- firstly he's earned a bit of slack given last season's turnaround
- secondly, I think we should give him a fair amount of time to find a settled line up with all the new faces (signs of progress on this one aren't great)
- thirdly, most importantly,  I don't subscribe to the view that our squad is inherently much better than the results we're getting. We have been shite for several years, particularly last year, and lost our 2-3 best players even from that shower. It might well be the case that Sherwood is getting a fair return from the players at his disposal (which is perhaps the most worrying thought).

[aj2k77]

Me too (edit: in response to Clampy). I said before the Stoke game give him 6 more; well, he's had one (one of the easier ones too), and didn't advance his cause in tactics, performance or results terms.

Three things still making me think we should give him time:

- firstly he's earned a bit of slack given last season's turnaround
- secondly, I think we should give him a fair amount of time to find a settled line up with all the new faces (signs of progress on this one aren't great)
- thirdly, most importantly,  I don't subscribe to the view that our squad is inherently much better than the results we're getting. We have been shite for several years, particularly last year, and lost our 2-3 best players even from that shower. It might well be the case that Sherwood is getting a fair return from the players at his disposal (which is perhaps the most worrying thought).

I don't think a fair return for £50m worth of players is losing 75% of your matches. Other teams have spent less and done more.

[VILLA MOLE]

90 points left and I just do not trust he can get 33.3 % of them I am sorry to say

[Vegas]

Not having a go at you personally, but quoting gross spend (rather than net) is either missing the point badly, or being deliberately provocative.

We had a squad that finished 17th. We lost £40m worth of players, plus Cleverley and Vlaar. We then spent £47m (or so). Why would we expect to do much better than 17th?

[Monty]

So, Brendan Rodgers anyone? *Ducks into the trench*

[LukeJames]

How you can in all honesty turn round and say the players aren't fit enough for the style of play he is trying to implement whilst apparently trying random formations and selections each week just points to desperation.

That's exactly it, he's full of shit unfortunately, as you say he's saying they're not fit enough to play the style he wants (which in itself is his responsibility to get them fit) but then he clearly doesn't know what style he wants to play as proven by the different formations in each game, he's making this shit up as he goes along, I refuse to believe that Fox can't see that.

[Jockey Randall]

Me too (edit: in response to Clampy). I said before the Stoke game give him 6 more; well, he's had one (one of the easier ones too), and didn't advance his cause in tactics, performance or results terms.

Three things still making me think we should give him time:

- firstly he's earned a bit of slack given last season's turnaround
- secondly, I think we should give him a fair amount of time to find a settled line up with all the new faces (signs of progress on this one aren't great)
- thirdly, most importantly,  I don't subscribe to the view that our squad is inherently much better than the results we're getting. We have been shite for several years, particularly last year, and lost our 2-3 best players even from that shower. It might well be the case that Sherwood is getting a fair return from the players at his disposal (which is perhaps the most worrying thought).

I don't think a fair return for £50m worth of players is losing 75% of your matches. Other teams have spent less and done more.

Some teams have spent less yes but looking at some of the teams below us in the net spend table and considering the squads they started the summer with, it shouldn't really come as a massive surprise for us to be struggling this season imo.

[aj2k77]

It doesn't detract from the fact we spent £50m on 11 players, losing really only 2 of any realistic value to the squad. If those extra 10/11 players can't add more to the team than the two you've lost then you've spent the money badly in my book.

There's still time for them to all pay off and see us shoot up the table, just not with the chancer man in charge I fear.

[Pat McMahon]

Agree with all of that Ads.   I would only add to those basics Sherwood being told, by himself preferably to cut out once and for all the clever dick sound bites that simply insult the intelligence of the fans who have endured so much.

Could not agree more Brian

The most annoying thing Sherwood has done since arriving, other than fail to motivate and organise the team for the cup final, was to portray sullen moroseness to the interviewer in the post Leicester defeat. He reacted like a despairing fan instead of somebody who was in charge and knew how to react.

[Vegas]

Another way of looking at that Sky table is to say the average net amount invested in new players by premier league clubs is £23m.

We had the worst squad of any surviving club last year, and spent £9m net improving it.

I haven't looked club by club but I'd guess that we're also one of the most affected by free transfer losses too, with Cleverley and Vlaar- may be wrong.

[Jockey Randall]

The thing that annoys me the most is that although in certain cases they've wasted a lot of it, sides like Newcastle, Sunderland, Bournemouth, West Brom, Leicester etc all dwarf our total spend. How the hell aren't we capable of competing financially with teams like that anymore?

[Duncan Shaw]

it could be worse.....we could be Newcastle!!