Poll - Sherwood - got rid

[rob_bridge]

Honestly don't see the point keeping him.

The very fact that at the start of October he suggested the team aren't fit enough is wholly unprofessional reflection on the person  in charge of coaching and fitness. Mr T Sherwood.

[berneboy]

I think he will likely get until the Watford game, which I believe is the one after Everton away?

That would be 14 league games, approaching half of the season. We’d need to take 10 points from Chelsea, Swansea, Spurs, Man City, Everton and Watford to be on our par for the course, with 38 points.

It’s a tough run of fixtures, which could make what should be an easier game against Watford a lot harder if there is a build up of pressure. I would imagine if we are below 14 points by then, that he will be sacked.

I hate it when our managers fail, I genuinely do. I am not interested in what they look like [even you O’Leary, you pug faced oik!], what they sound like, where they’re from or where they’ve been, I am just desperate for one to provide a modicum of stability in our performances and results at a reasonable level.

I’ve not mentioned success, I just want to drive the 86 or so miles back north from B6 with a happy smile at least ten out of the nineteen times a season. That’s not asking for the moon. I don’t care if we’ve even played well either. Just win please.

If Sherwood can spend the next two weeks and work out that Sanchez, Veretout and Gana is our best midfield three, that our defence should play a lot closer together and maybe even sacrifice the space out wide if need be to stay compact, then great. If he could get somebody up top with a bit of pace, guile and more importantly movement, like Ayew for instance, then give it a go. If he could get some slippery git with precision and vision to supply him like Gil or Grealish, then fantastic. If he could get Traore on to use his pace defensively to pin players back, to make the pitch really wide, then maybe, just maybe he will get a result more often that not.

In all honesty, I don’t know if my own assessment is up to much. My head has never been on the block. I just want him to do well, I just don’t think he has it in him.  6 games to save his job.

Very thought-provoking Ads. Well written and reasonable. If we're in real trouble after 14 matches it's his head on the block with a new manager ready for any necessary January changes. But I want him to succeed and like all of us I am desperate for some reason to smile and feel joy occasionally. I am fed up avoiding Match of the Day and the football reports in the papers.

[Ads]

They're fit to play the game, just not fit to press, press, press.

It would help if he picked his team for Chelsea now, injuries permitting and did not change it for the subsequent games, giving people time to gel a bit more.

Knowing us, we'd beat Chelsea 3-1 and follow that up with a 2-0 loss to Swansea...

[itbrvilla]

It's not Tim's fault, that's just a 'false narrative!

[itbrvilla]

It's not Tim's fault, that's just a 'false narrative'.

[Tony Erdington]

ang on, not fit theres more movement in a noses vest than what i saw saturday.

tim the fat ladie is gargling

[Brend'Watkins]

I think Sherwood has been unlucky not to have Traore available.  He'd certainly offer more of a threat, give us width and would make space.

[brian green]

Agree with all of that Ads.   I would only add to those basics Sherwood being told, by himself preferably to cut out once and for all the clever dick sound bites that simply insult the intelligence of the fans who have endured so much.

[brian green]

The reason we have not had Traore is because we  were looking down the barrel of a home defeat to Notts County due to stupid defensive errors and Sherwood had to keep him on until inevitably one of the assaults put him out of the game.

[olaftab]

I hate it when our managers fail, I genuinely do. I am not interested in what they look like [even you O’Leary, you pug faced oik!], what they sound like, where they’re from or where they’ve been, I am just desperate for one to provide a modicum of stability in our performances and results at a reasonable level.

Yes as this is always bad news  based on failure. I would like to think that one day we can sack a Manager for only winning the League and not the European Cup as well but for now sacking is agony.

[andyh]

I think, putting any sort of 'faith' in Traore is at best, optimistic.
Yes, the kid has bags of pace, but let's face it, we need a damn sight more than someone who can run quickly.
Of course, it will be nice to have him as an option when he's fit, but let's not single him out as the cure all, because I think he is a long, long way from being being anything like that.

[joe_c]

I'm not ready to give up on Sherwood just yet but isn't it strange how many managers contrive to preside over increasingly poor results and performances the more of their own players they bring in. O'Leary (6th, 10th, 16th) and Lambert (Bad, Badder, Baddest) are obvious examples of this phenomenon.

[Tom_Mc9?]

I've gone from No to Undecided. Fickle.

[Ads]

When I play football the two things I like the opposition doing least is (1) giving me no time on the ball and the worst (2) running at me with pace.

Traore doesn’t have pace, he has the ability to bend space so as to move location A next to location B without having to use locomotion. That is the only possible explanation for him being able to move from one part of the pitch to another so quickly.

He also has a sticky foot, because while raw speed is a massive problem for any defender, it helps if they cannot control the ball. This kid can move it left or right and blistering speed. He will destroy Ivanovich if he is fit in two weeks time.

I agree that you cannot be a one man side, but if you’ve got somebody as inhumanly quick and skilful as Traore, then you play them. You make the pitch big, you isolate full backs, you get the opposition to think about the depth of their defence, you make gaps bigger between defences and midfields, you have an outlet for the lazy ball into the channel. Pace covers a multitude of sins.

Looking at our team of late, beyond Amavi, we don’t have anybody with pace.

[in exile]

Agree with all of that Ads.   I would only add to those basics Sherwood being told, by himself preferably to cut out once and for all the clever dick sound bites that simply insult the intelligence of the fans who have endured so much.

Could not agree more Brian