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Offline jeff

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1170 on: October 04, 2015, 05:03:36 PM »
I am not Big Sam's biggest fan and have said in the past I would hate him to be our manager however I think we are in such a poor state at the moment that he might be the short term answer.
His results as a manager speak for themselves and that is what we need now results. It looks like every team he has managed have finished better than when he started with them and they have all been worse after him (West Ham are the only team bucking that trend at the moment).

Here are his league finishes since Bolton
01-02 Bolton 16th
02-03 Bolton 17th
03/04 Bolton 8th
04/05 Bolton 6th
05/06 Bolton 8th
06/07 Bolton 7th (Bolton didn’t finish above 13th after he left)
07/08 Newcastle left them 11th
08/09 Blackburn 15th
09/10 Blackburn (1st full season) 10th
10/11 Blackburn left in 13th
11/12 West Ham 3rd in championship (promoted through play offs)
12/13 West Ham 10th
13/14 West ham 13th
14/15 West Ham 12th

I don't think he would be the answer long term but he might be able to make a team out of the bunch of individuals we seem to have at the moment which is more than TS seems to be doing.

Offline tomd2103

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1171 on: October 04, 2015, 05:04:51 PM »
We'd have hit rock bottom if we ever employed Fat Sam in my opinion.

Just out of interest, how close to rock bottom were we when we employed McLeish?

I think we finished 9th after beating Liverpool 1-0 in the last match of the season. A game mostly remembered for the relegation of SHA.

we finished 9th but from memory i think 6 teams were separeted by a point

I think the original statement was more in terms of the sate of the club itself as opposed to our league position.  To be totally honest, the appointment of Mcleish has to be one of the worst decision made in the club's history. 

Offline Rudy65

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1172 on: October 04, 2015, 05:07:19 PM »
Sherwood also seems immune to any media stick. McLaren, Advocaat and even Mouriniho are under pressure yet our Tim escapes

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1173 on: October 04, 2015, 05:09:32 PM »
Sherwood also seems immune to any media stick. McLaren, Advocaat and even Mouriniho are under pressure yet our Tim escapes
Dunno there's been a few articles querying his tactics now

Offline Des Little

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1174 on: October 04, 2015, 05:12:09 PM »
Sherwood also seems immune to any media stick. McLaren, Advocaat and even Mouriniho are under pressure yet our Tim escapes
Dunno there's been a few articles querying his tactics now

I bet Sherwood is eternally grateful for the Chelsea debacle and to a lesser extent Newcastle's plight otherwise it would be him getting the headlines.

Offline Toronto Villa

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1175 on: October 04, 2015, 05:12:11 PM »
I am not Big Sam's biggest fan and have said in the past I would hate him to be our manager however I think we are in such a poor state at the moment that he might be the short term answer.
His results as a manager speak for themselves and that is what we need now results. It looks like every team he has managed have finished better than when he started with them and they have all been worse after him (West Ham are the only team bucking that trend at the moment).

Here are his league finishes since Bolton
01-02 Bolton 16th
02-03 Bolton 17th
03/04 Bolton 8th
04/05 Bolton 6th
05/06 Bolton 8th
06/07 Bolton 7th (Bolton didn’t finish above 13th after he left)
07/08 Newcastle left them 11th
08/09 Blackburn 15th
09/10 Blackburn (1st full season) 10th
10/11 Blackburn left in 13th
11/12 West Ham 3rd in championship (promoted through play offs)
12/13 West Ham 10th
13/14 West ham 13th
14/15 West Ham 12th

I don't think he would be the answer long term but he might be able to make a team out of the bunch of individuals we seem to have at the moment which is more than TS seems to be doing.

I'd love to know what his overall home record was over those seasons. And versus who might have considered the top sides over those years. I thought Bolton was always a tough place to go with him up there.

Offline Toronto Villa

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1176 on: October 04, 2015, 05:13:01 PM »
Sherwood also seems immune to any media stick. McLaren, Advocaat and even Mouriniho are under pressure yet our Tim escapes
Dunno there's been a few articles querying his tactics now

I bet Sherwood is eternally grateful for the Chelsea debacle and to a lesser extent Newcastle's plight otherwise it would be him getting the headlines.

He's definitely been sheltered especially with Chelsea. McLaren is thinking the same thing I imagine.

Offline Big Mac

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1177 on: October 04, 2015, 05:13:51 PM »
Sherwood also seems immune to any media stick. McLaren, Advocaat and even Mouriniho are under pressure yet our Tim escapes
Dunno there's been a few articles querying his tactics now
I haven't read the papers lately but the BBC never slag him off. The BBC coverage off us is awful though I have never saw a pundit say what are first 11 should be.

Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1178 on: October 04, 2015, 05:14:06 PM »
Allardyce isn't coming - his wages would put Lerner off.
Nigel Pearson is more likely.
 :(

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1179 on: October 04, 2015, 05:23:54 PM »
Big Sam autobiography about to be released so a new job would be good timing . He will go to Sunderland.

Offline steamer

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1180 on: October 04, 2015, 05:34:24 PM »
I have no sense of affection for the guy.
But fuck, we have a record of appointing crap managers and hanging on to them, even before Lerner, I give you Mr Fickle.
We seem to have assembled a reasonable squad to finish 10-12.
Tim is personable but needs help, fuck knows what Wilkins does apart from fit into the cockney team.
put an old head in there (Mr Fox) to help him. Team tactics, selections etc.
Alladyce is not the answer, cool heads and thoughtful thinking is what is needed, As in business that is the role of the, M.D. C.E.O. what ever Fox is called.

Offline Villafirst

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1181 on: October 04, 2015, 05:34:35 PM »
When will the 'Sherwood out' banner make its first appearance? Much like the Lambert out banner in the Hull away game last season.

Online London Villan

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1182 on: October 04, 2015, 06:14:11 PM »
I really don't know what to think. He is a young manager, learning his trade in the most competitive league in the world. He hasn't had years of crafting his style and working out what is effective for a team and how to address the opposition's tactical changes.

Elements of performances have been good, even excellent, which is the frustrating thing.

His coaching staff, which is pretty experienced, should be helping him more and maybe he needs someone who has battled at the wrong end of league to come in and help.

What I do know is that we could really do without sacking another manager.

Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1183 on: October 04, 2015, 06:22:02 PM »
I'm not 100% in the sack club. But, he's losing my faith.

Offline Ads

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1184 on: October 04, 2015, 06:24:27 PM »
I like the way we are too toxic, yet somebody as nailed on for relegation as Sunderland are not.

 


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