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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1155 on: October 04, 2015, 04:38:30 PM »
Different opinion.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1156 on: October 04, 2015, 04:39:41 PM »

I am not skewing anything, for whatever reason his last 3 clubs wanted rid of him. He's a divisive figure and I am sure that applies to his bosses and players as much as it does to the supporters. One thing that particularly grates with me is if his team wins then he puts it down to the work he has done if they lose then it is all the players.

We don't have a vacancy at the moment but if and when we do I want us to set our sights higher.

His last three bosses have been Mike Ashley, Venkys and the Porn Brothers. 

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1157 on: October 04, 2015, 04:42:46 PM »
For me, the biggest thing against Sherwood is he's now been here since Feb, and doesn't seem to have any idea of the system he wants us to play. That's a woeful situation to be in, even McLeish and Lambert had a system they wanted us playing (no matter how shit it was) so the players could train all week etc to get used to it. We just seem to be winging it every week.

At the very least, know what the fuck you want your squad to be trying to do.

Exactly. Last season it didn't show as much because they weren't his players, and he also had Benteke who provided a focal point for attacks. The tactics pretty much saw to themselves.

Without a beast of a top-class striker, Sherwood's having to actually use his brain to set the side up. And he clearly doesn't know how to do that.

Sadly, there is no empirical evidence whatsoever to suggest that is going to change in the near future, if ever. So he's got to go.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1158 on: October 04, 2015, 04:48:03 PM »
We'd have hit rock bottom if we ever employed Fat Sam in my opinion.

Just out of interest, how close to rock bottom were we when we employed McLeish?

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1159 on: October 04, 2015, 04:48:17 PM »
Would people be clamoring for Allardyce if he was still in a job or is it just because he's available?

Virtually no one is clamouring for him, just pointing out that as things stand, he'd be better than what we currently have and would probably keep us up. Which shows how shit we are at present.

This is how I see also. Nobody actually "wants" Fat Sam and his particular brand of football. But we need to make a change and get a manager in who would keep us up.

Of course everyone would prefer Klopp or Koeman or someone good, but we are utterly fucking shit and that isn't going to happen.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1160 on: October 04, 2015, 04:49:55 PM »
We'd have hit rock bottom if we ever employed Fat Sam in my opinion.

Just out of interest, how close to rock bottom were we when we employed McLeish?

I think we finished 9th after beating Liverpool 1-0 in the last match of the season. A game mostly remembered for the relegation of SHA.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1161 on: October 04, 2015, 04:50:49 PM »

I am not skewing anything, for whatever reason his last 3 clubs wanted rid of him. He's a divisive figure and I am sure that applies to his bosses and players as much as it does to the supporters. One thing that particularly grates with me is if his team wins then he puts it down to the work he has done if they lose then it is all the players.

We don't have a vacancy at the moment but if and when we do I want us to set our sights higher.

His last three bosses have been Mike Ashley, Venkys and the Porn Brothers. 

Which suggests more sensible owners won't touch him. Nailed on for us then.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1162 on: October 04, 2015, 04:51:42 PM »

I am not skewing anything, for whatever reason his last 3 clubs wanted rid of him. He's a divisive figure and I am sure that applies to his bosses and players as much as it does to the supporters. One thing that particularly grates with me is if his team wins then he puts it down to the work he has done if they lose then it is all the players.

We don't have a vacancy at the moment but if and when we do I want us to set our sights higher.

His last three bosses have been Mike Ashley, Venkys and the Porn Brothers. 

Yep. A finer collection of misfits you may not find in British football and I include our governor in that. And as for West Ham around this time last season they were doing just as well with Sam in charge as with Bilic. Let's see how it ends up this season with him before people claim him better than Allardyce.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1163 on: October 04, 2015, 04:54:09 PM »
We'd have hit rock bottom if we ever employed Fat Sam in my opinion.

Just out of interest, how close to rock bottom were we when we employed McLeish?

I think we finished 9th after beating Liverpool 1-0 in the last match of the season. A game mostly remembered for the relegation of SHA.

we finished 9th but from memory i think 6 teams were separeted by a point

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1164 on: October 04, 2015, 04:55:24 PM »
We'd have hit rock bottom if we ever employed Fat Sam in my opinion.

Just out of interest, how close to rock bottom were we when we employed McLeish?

I think we finished 9th after beating Liverpool 1-0 in the last match of the season. A game mostly remembered for the relegation of SHA.

Correct. However that win and other results going for us catapulted us up the table by about 6 places. Great, but it camouflaged what a poor season it had been

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1165 on: October 04, 2015, 04:56:21 PM »
In any case I reckon Allardyce is on his way to Sunderland. We won't be firing Sherwood until at least we lose 2 or 3 more.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1166 on: October 04, 2015, 04:57:58 PM »
We'd have hit rock bottom if we ever employed Fat Sam in my opinion.

Just out of interest, how close to rock bottom were we when we employed McLeish?

I think we finished 9th after beating Liverpool 1-0 in the last match of the season. A game mostly remembered for the relegation of SHA.

we finished 9th but from memory i think 6 teams were separeted by a point

We got 48 points, pretty much every season that will have a side finishing 9th-12th. As an example, since then, 48 points would have a side finishing 10th, 9th, 11th, 10th.
« Last Edit: October 04, 2015, 05:00:49 PM by PeterWithesShin »

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1167 on: October 04, 2015, 05:00:56 PM »
A Premier League team that has finished 6th, 6th, 6th and 9th is a very attractive proposition to the majority of managers in world football, especially a club that pays it's managers as well as we do. Oh well, we opted for Mc0-0 instead which tells you everything you need to know about Lerners sporting radar, everything he touches in sport turns to turd.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1168 on: October 04, 2015, 05:01:54 PM »
I said after West Brom I wanted him gone. We were gutless and clueless that day

Having watched footy for over 40 years I dont recall a Villa side who were awful for about 10 games, like we have been, and improve in the future unless the manager changed or the playing staff were totally overhauled.

We are crap because we are. We arent unlucky, we havent hit the post umpteen times, we havent played the top 6 in consecutive games and we havent suffered injuries to major personnel. We are rubbish because the manager is clueless and it wont change unless he goes.

Ray Wilkins is a waste of time. Where is his great track record? What does he do?

As others have said we have a squad capable of being mid table, but a manager who Doesnt know what he is doing. I just dont think he is intelligent enough as a person or manager

Get rid of TS and now

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1169 on: October 04, 2015, 05:02:04 PM »
Yesterday was the last straw for me. As soon  as the team was announced, everyone around me was totally lost for words other than, ah, well, another defeat coming up and, as soon as they scored, I said we could all go home as, just couldn't see us scoring.
Get rid now before we get cut too far adrift!!

 


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