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Offline PeterWithe

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1095 on: October 04, 2015, 02:11:35 PM »
Our next 6 are Chelsea (a) Swansea (h) Saints LC (a) Spurs (a) Citeh (h) Everton (a). Even if we were in any kind of form I wouldn't expect us to get much of a haul from those games.

It does seem a up hill battle does that
If I could say anything to Sherwood it would be if your going to go, them go fighting,
Stick to the original principles you started with, attacking line ups, caution to the wind, and have a go, it doesn't always work see Liecester, but it's got to be better than the negative lineups we have put out against blues and Stoke
Build your team around Gill, Grealish, Ayew and Traore not all at once obviously but go out with a bang if that's where your heading, just like you did when you first came


I agree.

The defence seems a reasonable unit if we can minimise the individual mistakes that have blighted the season so far. Pick two from Sanchez/Westwood/Gana/Vertout, pick three from Jack/Gil/Ayew/Traore/Cole/Bacuna and a front man and I don't think we are far from an entertaining, winning side.

I hope Sherwood turns the corner soon as I'd hate to see the above promising team turn into a few seasons of Allardyce.

I think he'll do it as well.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1096 on: October 04, 2015, 02:17:42 PM »
Our next 6 are Chelsea (a) Swansea (h) Saints LC (a) Spurs (a) Citeh (h) Everton (a). Even if we were in any kind of form I wouldn't expect us to get much of a haul from those games.

It does seem a up hill battle does that
If I could say anything to Sherwood it would be if your going to go, them go fighting,
Stick to the original principles you started with, attacking line ups, caution to the wind, and have a go, it doesn't always work see Liecester, but it's got to be better than the negative lineups we have put out against blues and Stoke
Build your team around Gill, Grealish, Ayew and Traore not all at once obviously but go out with a bang if that's where your heading, just like you did when you first came


I agree.

The defence seems a reasonable unit if we can minimise the individual mistakes that have blighted the season so far. Pick two from Sanchez/Westwood/Gana/Vertout, pick three from Jack/Gil/Ayew/Traore/Cole/Bacuna and a front man and I don't think we are far from an entertaining, winning side.

I hope Sherwood turns the corner soon as I'd hate to see the above promising team turn into a few seasons of Allardyce.

I think he'll do it as well.

Out of interest - and without any aggression in my question, and nothing personal - what do you see which makes you think Sherwood will turn it around?

Offline exigo

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1097 on: October 04, 2015, 02:22:48 PM »
Advocaat resigns from Sunderland, so surely Allardyce will go there next and give them a dead cat bounce. We could be bottom by the end of the month.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1098 on: October 04, 2015, 02:24:00 PM »
Blind optimism, sheer blind optimism.

I think he'll get lucky and we will click and start winning. I think pretty soon he'll start listening to those around him as the pressure mounts, I can't believe all the coaching staff are buying into the formula of thrashing around in each half looking for a system. I just think we'll find a way of getting all these promising players to gel into a coherent side.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1099 on: October 04, 2015, 02:25:45 PM »
Every time we have a discussion about Allardyce. Why, I wonder, is the man some see as the answer to our problems also regularly available?

How is he regularly available?
Every time we have a discussion about Allardyce. Why, I wonder, is the man some see as the answer to our problems also regularly available?

How is he regularly available?

He's had 4 jobs in 16 years, which is pretty stable by most standards.

He's had 4 jobs in 16 years, which is pretty stable by most standards.

That's massively skewed by the amount of time he spent at Bolton. Since then he has been sacked twice and not had his contract renewed at West Ham.


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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1101 on: October 04, 2015, 02:33:58 PM »
Every time we have a discussion about Allardyce. Why, I wonder, is the man some see as the answer to our problems also regularly available?

How is he regularly available?
Every time we have a discussion about Allardyce. Why, I wonder, is the man some see as the answer to our problems also regularly available?

How is he regularly available?

He's had 4 jobs in 16 years, which is pretty stable by most standards.

He's had 4 jobs in 16 years, which is pretty stable by most standards.

That's massively skewed by the amount of time he spent at Bolton. Since then he has been sacked twice and not had his contract renewed at West Ham.



OK, well even since Bolton it's 3 jobs in 8 years.  So using your criteria, we shouldn't go for a manager who has ever been sacked or who has had more than 3 jobs in 8 years.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1102 on: October 04, 2015, 02:35:48 PM »
Every time we have a discussion about Allardyce. Why, I wonder, is the man some see as the answer to our problems also regularly available?

How is he regularly available?

He's had 4 jobs in 16 years, which is pretty stable by most standards.

Which includes being very unfairly hounded out by the ever delusional Newcastle after a few months. So take that out of the equation he's had really 3 jobs in that time, so relatively speaking it's not been a lot of change in his career. He left Bolton, and also in that was a stint at Blackburn where he was fired sitting 13th in the table. He has not left any of his clubs worse than he found them.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1103 on: October 04, 2015, 02:37:14 PM »
I thought he looked pretty poor at Newcastle, to be honest. Yes the fans were delusional, but his football was indeed the usual eye-stabbing awfulness.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1104 on: October 04, 2015, 02:37:16 PM »
When he was sacked by Blackburn they were 13th in the Premier League, didn't work out too well for them considering what's happened since. Newcastle were 11th when he left, they finished 12th and got relegated the next season. Didn't work out for them either. It's not like he was sacked for being bottom of the league.

I'd prefer not to have Allardyce as manager, but you can't try and turn it into he's some failure that keeps getting sacked because his sides are facing relegation.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1105 on: October 04, 2015, 02:38:55 PM »
We'd have hit rock bottom if we ever employed Fat Sam in my opinion.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1106 on: October 04, 2015, 02:42:16 PM »
What makes our current plight more depressing is seeing other equally matched squads playing far superior than us. Leicester, Palace, even the new boys who have come up seem far more at ease in creating chances, knocking it around than we do. I watched a bit of the Palace game yesterday, they have 3 tops players in Cabaye and the two wide boys, but the rest of the team are fairly average journey men, but they are a far better than we are, just wonder what a coach like Pardew could do with us.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1107 on: October 04, 2015, 02:43:32 PM »
We'd have hit rock bottom if we ever employed Fat Sam in my opinion.

That's reserved for Pulis. I don't like the idea of Allardyce, but as much as I don't like the idea, what we're currently doing isn't working so maybe we need someone who will bore us to mid table for a couple of years.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1108 on: October 04, 2015, 02:45:45 PM »
I thought he looked pretty poor at Newcastle, to be honest. Yes the fans were delusional, but his football was indeed the usual eye-stabbing awfulness.

His year short time at Newcastle came after he's played some decent football at Bolton.  Some of the stuff they played with Okocha at his best was great, as we found out to our cost.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1109 on: October 04, 2015, 02:49:03 PM »
We'd have hit rock bottom if we ever employed Fat Sam in my opinion.

I think I would actually cry real tears

 


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