Poll - Sherwood - got rid

[Lastfootstamper]

I always felt West Ham fans were a little harsh on tubby Sam. I know it wasn't pretty most of the time (they actually played decent footy in the first half of last season, with Downing in the hole and Sakho in form). But they're a yo-yo club who he's given stability to. If there's one thing Big Sam doesn't do (as of yet), it's relegate sides. It may be dour at times but he'll keep you up and have you well drilled. He'll also use certain players effectively. I think we'd see Gestede given more to work with.

We have good players here. We just need someone to get that backline into shape, and get players playing.

The worry with Fat Sam is, he could hamper the development of Grealish. I'm not sure he'd fancy him. In addition I think we'd see very little of Gil.

I would take him in a heartbeat right now. Right now we're shit to watch (aside from 10-20 minutes here and there) and we're not picking up results. I'd rather be shit to watch and pick up results. The latter will keep us up.

We're going down under Sherwood. We can't wait around this time. We diced with death leaving it late last year. Sherwoods used up all his luck and impact now. We missed out on Pulis last year by not bulleting Lambert sooner. Say what you like about Tiny Penis but we'd be looking in better nick right now under him. And he's ultimately done better at that mob than Sherwood has here, regardless of our cup run.

*double-checks league table....*

[cdbearsfan]

Allardyce would be an aspirational appointment. The prospect of going back up the M6 from Villa Park happy more than five pathetic times a season would be a god send.

I don't care what we are like to watch. I am just sick to death of losing, of being a soft touch for shit clubs like Stoke fucking City to come and breeze to three points.

Albion fans were saying the same thing about Pulis and now they're moaning about the football they play. I don't want to go down that road.

So would you prefer to be relegated rather than have Sam Allardyce as manager.......

Are getting relegated or playing horrendous, eye-bleedingly bad football that saps the soul and further diminishes dwindling crowds the ONLY two options?

It it not possible to get a manager who can win a few games without turning us into Pulis-era Stoke, like Swansea, Southampton and Leicester have done?

[passitsideways]

Who says we're going to get relegated?

What signs have you seen from this season to suggest that anything else is probable?

Because we're only 8 games in. Just because we're in the bottom three now, doesn't mean we will be in May. Having a  little optimism doesn't hurt.

Not having a go, but that is some monumental straw clutching.

It's straw-clutching, but it's not completely ridiculous, because I do think the squad is finally coming together. Adama should be back soon, Veretout apparently has been deemed settled enough to warrant a starting place again and was quite good, Rudy looked somewhat better with ball at feet. No, I don't really have much faith in Sherwood, but all six of the losses have been by one goal, so it's not like we've been getting blown away. People have been saying West Brom, Stoke, Sunderland, even Liverpool have been different degrees of shit yet we can't beat them; but if that's the case, there are a lot of crap teams in the division which are beatable, and there will be occasions where we catch good teams on bad days.

I know, God forbid me being optimistic even in the face of what has so far been overwhelmingly negative evidence, but I'm not massively panicked just yet. Give me maybe another month.

[tomd2103]

Fox should be sounding out Favre who has just left Mönchengladbach. With modest resources, he's had three tremendous seasons there. Not really sure why he chose to leave, despite having had a crap start to this season. It was interesting that the club tried to convince him to stay. He would get far better from this group of players. If there is an indication that he would come, then Sherwood should be fired now rather than waiting for us to cast be further adrift.

I think that is the type of manager we need in a couple of years time.  What we need now is someone who can shake us out if the malaise we have been in for the past five seasons.  Someone who is going to make us an organised side that is hard to beat.  Someone who is going to ensure that players do not have an easy ride and get away with turning out the same garbage game after game.  Someone who realises just how important set pieces are in the modern game and gives the impression that they are at least worked on in training.  Someone who can develop a way of playing, that although may not be easy on the eye, gives the impression that at least the players know their roles and what is expected of them. 

[john e]

Looks like Sunderland are managerless
Just hope they appoint alardyce pronto then I can sleep well in bed again

[Risso]

Looks like Sunderland are managerless
Just hope they appoint alardyce pronto then I can sleep well in bed again

I'm not sure seeing Sunderland a few points ahead of us in the next few weeks would help me sleep, but each to their own.

[Monty]

I don't think a managerial trio of Ferguson, Guardiola and Herbert Chapman could stop Sunderland getting relegated this year.

[ozzjim]

Nor me. And I am happy to eat humble pie at the feet of Allardyce for a few seasons of safety and grumbling about style rather than losing each week. Although I can't see many doing worse with third squad at the moment. There is a good side in there.

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The difference with Sunderland though is that their players are shite. It's not like us where we have the parts just not the man to put them together.

Sunderland will go down no matter who is in charge.

[ozzjim]

I don't think a managerial trio of Ferguson, Guardiola and Herbert Chapman could stop Sunderland getting relegated this year.

You watch  him keep them up. The only drawback is they don't have a big target man and can't get one until January but that Toivelen creature looked capable of being Kevin Davies like.

[Chris Smith]

Every time we have a discussion about Allardyce. Why, I wonder, is the man some see as the answer to our problems also regularly available?

[Ger Regan]

The poll results are remarkable. I really didn't think there'd be that sort of turnaround in opinions within a week.

[Monty]

Sorry Ozz, I just can't see it. There's a reason the manager is resigning, rather than being sacked. All the Sunderland fans I know and all the Sunderland people I read will tell you there's something absolutely rotten at the heart of that dressing room.

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Because he's good at getting shit teams into mid-table. We'd all take some of that now.

[aj2k77]

The poll results are remarkable. I really didn't think there'd be that sort of turnaround in opinions within a week.

No one expected a back 5 with Crespo playing his first game of the season this time last week. There are some moments that make even the biggest believer realise someone is dumb and yesterdays brain fart by dim Tim looks like a tipping point.