Quote from: Ormy Droid on October 03, 2015, 05:51:15 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on October 03, 2015, 05:40:07 PMQuote from: Ormy Droid on October 03, 2015, 05:16:57 PMQuote from: Chris Jameson on October 03, 2015, 05:11:11 PMIf it means bringing Allardyce in I'd rather keep him a bit longer, I cannot stand watching Allardyce's brand of football. We've got a decent squad with a fair amount of young foreign players, surely there is a coach outside the British Isles who could do a better job than the usual uninspiring suspects?I'm sorry but I'm finding it just a bit hard to swallow this line from a lot of people tbh about 'Allardyce's brand of football' - It's not as if we're renowned for our free flowing football over the years is it? So if it's a choice of watching crap football, and every so often taking three points I'll have that please, thank you.It isn't though, is it?It certainly doesn't have to be, anyway.I just don't think the football we have to watch can be any worse than what's been on offer for the last five years. The Villa job is just too big (especially now) to risk another appointment with little or no experience of this league. I think even Klopp would struggle down the Villa.Today, I thought we looked better once we had Gil, Grealish and Ayew on the pitch, and ideally I'd like a manager who could get the best out of these talented players, and I admit Allardyce is probably not that man. I just don't think it's possible for us to 'play' our way out of this mess at the moment. Allardyce would stabilise the club and be a stop gap (as at West Ham) until we get new owners and an actual purpose again.I don't think Allardyce went into the West Ham job seeing himself as a stop gap.I take your point about not being worse than it has for the last five years, but once again, how is that any basis on which to support a potential new manager?If things have been so bad for five years - and they have, they really have been fucking awful - then surely it is still extremely easy to manage to be better than it has been yet still not good enough?I don't want three years of slightly better than what we've had. I want years of it being MUCH better than it has.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on October 03, 2015, 05:40:07 PMQuote from: Ormy Droid on October 03, 2015, 05:16:57 PMQuote from: Chris Jameson on October 03, 2015, 05:11:11 PMIf it means bringing Allardyce in I'd rather keep him a bit longer, I cannot stand watching Allardyce's brand of football. We've got a decent squad with a fair amount of young foreign players, surely there is a coach outside the British Isles who could do a better job than the usual uninspiring suspects?I'm sorry but I'm finding it just a bit hard to swallow this line from a lot of people tbh about 'Allardyce's brand of football' - It's not as if we're renowned for our free flowing football over the years is it? So if it's a choice of watching crap football, and every so often taking three points I'll have that please, thank you.It isn't though, is it?It certainly doesn't have to be, anyway.I just don't think the football we have to watch can be any worse than what's been on offer for the last five years. The Villa job is just too big (especially now) to risk another appointment with little or no experience of this league. I think even Klopp would struggle down the Villa.Today, I thought we looked better once we had Gil, Grealish and Ayew on the pitch, and ideally I'd like a manager who could get the best out of these talented players, and I admit Allardyce is probably not that man. I just don't think it's possible for us to 'play' our way out of this mess at the moment. Allardyce would stabilise the club and be a stop gap (as at West Ham) until we get new owners and an actual purpose again.
Quote from: Ormy Droid on October 03, 2015, 05:16:57 PMQuote from: Chris Jameson on October 03, 2015, 05:11:11 PMIf it means bringing Allardyce in I'd rather keep him a bit longer, I cannot stand watching Allardyce's brand of football. We've got a decent squad with a fair amount of young foreign players, surely there is a coach outside the British Isles who could do a better job than the usual uninspiring suspects?I'm sorry but I'm finding it just a bit hard to swallow this line from a lot of people tbh about 'Allardyce's brand of football' - It's not as if we're renowned for our free flowing football over the years is it? So if it's a choice of watching crap football, and every so often taking three points I'll have that please, thank you.It isn't though, is it?It certainly doesn't have to be, anyway.
Quote from: Chris Jameson on October 03, 2015, 05:11:11 PMIf it means bringing Allardyce in I'd rather keep him a bit longer, I cannot stand watching Allardyce's brand of football. We've got a decent squad with a fair amount of young foreign players, surely there is a coach outside the British Isles who could do a better job than the usual uninspiring suspects?I'm sorry but I'm finding it just a bit hard to swallow this line from a lot of people tbh about 'Allardyce's brand of football' - It's not as if we're renowned for our free flowing football over the years is it? So if it's a choice of watching crap football, and every so often taking three points I'll have that please, thank you.
If it means bringing Allardyce in I'd rather keep him a bit longer, I cannot stand watching Allardyce's brand of football. We've got a decent squad with a fair amount of young foreign players, surely there is a coach outside the British Isles who could do a better job than the usual uninspiring suspects?
Quote from: silhillvilla on October 03, 2015, 05:30:31 PMQuote from: Monty on October 03, 2015, 05:29:32 PMQuote from: silhillvilla on October 03, 2015, 05:28:42 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on October 03, 2015, 05:27:10 PMQuote from: Monty on October 03, 2015, 05:25:47 PMI'm ust not convinced we have the players to play Allardyce's style effectively. Endless diagonal balls at Gestede to knock down for Sinclair.I'd take that Because it worked so well in the first half today.At least it's a game plan whereas today ?? This season, I see no plan , no method. Hutton and Amavi were getting to the byline often enough, but the final ball was usually lacking. So the plan, if it could be called such, failed.I reckon Timah reasoned that Gil and Grealish would be bullied and so kept hem on the bench until Sterk were tired. Going from 3 central defenders to 2 cost us the goal, as the two had not adjusted properly and were too far apart.So there was a plan, but not a very effective one. I don't think TS is ever short of plans, to be fair. He got some well wicked slick schemes up his sleeve innit.
Quote from: Monty on October 03, 2015, 05:29:32 PMQuote from: silhillvilla on October 03, 2015, 05:28:42 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on October 03, 2015, 05:27:10 PMQuote from: Monty on October 03, 2015, 05:25:47 PMI'm ust not convinced we have the players to play Allardyce's style effectively. Endless diagonal balls at Gestede to knock down for Sinclair.I'd take that Because it worked so well in the first half today.At least it's a game plan whereas today ?? This season, I see no plan , no method.
Quote from: silhillvilla on October 03, 2015, 05:28:42 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on October 03, 2015, 05:27:10 PMQuote from: Monty on October 03, 2015, 05:25:47 PMI'm ust not convinced we have the players to play Allardyce's style effectively. Endless diagonal balls at Gestede to knock down for Sinclair.I'd take that Because it worked so well in the first half today.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on October 03, 2015, 05:27:10 PMQuote from: Monty on October 03, 2015, 05:25:47 PMI'm ust not convinced we have the players to play Allardyce's style effectively. Endless diagonal balls at Gestede to knock down for Sinclair.I'd take that
Quote from: Monty on October 03, 2015, 05:25:47 PMI'm ust not convinced we have the players to play Allardyce's style effectively. Endless diagonal balls at Gestede to knock down for Sinclair.
I'm ust not convinced we have the players to play Allardyce's style effectively.
Question. What makes people think Allardyce would come here?
Nobody is going to be sad to see the back of us, Newcastle or Sunderland. If ever three clubs deserved to get relegated,, it's us and the two North East teams.
We need a manger who has the vaguest idea of how to set a team up.