Poll - Sherwood - got rid

[ktvillan]

Those with short memories have forgotten that when Sherwood took over a little over six months ago we were on a runaway train towards relegation. Not only did he arrest that slide, he also got us to the FA Cup Final. He's since shipped out a lot of inadequacy and brought in a lot of new players in a very short timespan. These players need time to settle and gel.
I think the guy has some credit in the bank.

I think everyone accepts that new players will take time to gel, but that's not really the root of the problem and is something of a red herring. It's been painfully clear that it's Sherwood's tactical aberrations and poor selections that have cost us in several matches this season.  As well as the players not looking fit enough.   A well established and settled squad might help performance and results, but it isn't suddenly going to make Sheerwood competent in those areas.  Either he knows what he's doing or he doesn't.  The evidence so far, including much of his spell with a well established squad last season,  suggests the latter.

[old man villa fan]

The squad last year was poor and playing a brand of football that made them look even worse. Sherwood came in and altered the way we approached the game. This gave the players a lift and they looked as though they were enjoying the game.

Some of the players then slipped back into their old ways and Clark picked up an injury that completely disorganised the defence over the final few matches.

Many in the squad had to be replaced and we were unfortunate that two of our best players wanted to leave. If Benteke and Delph had stayed, I wonder how much Sherwood would have had to spend.

Football is very much a squad game these days as cover for injuries/suspensions is essential (as we full know). There will always be players left out, even out of the match day squad but we need that cover. We still have glaring weaknesses in the squad. When you couple this with inexperience and a few injuries, it is a recipe for a team to struggle.

I have been hugely disappointed with results but in most games I have seen something positive. This was not the case last year, when relegation looked odds-on after the Hull match. Last season's experience shows that it's a fine line between relative success and failure. If we can put out a balanced and settled side, pick up a bit of confidence, get a better rub of the green, things could turn around.

[tony scott]

We have had spells in the games I've seen were we have played some really good football, if I can see surely the players can and it must motivate them to kick on musint?

[Big Dick Edwards]

It's crucial that he beats Stoke, both because of our respective positions in the table and also to give us a lift. Lose, and then the expected loss against Chelsea and I think we'll be gonners.

So by mid October, we'll be goners? Jesus Christ!

[aj2k77]

I think one concern Sherwood will have is a lack of allies if things continue to go tits up.
Lambert was on 6 foot of concrete because he was a Lerner appointment, and there was obviously some kind of 'bond' between them and (the contract renewal proved) there was a tremendous amount of loyalty between them.
Fox was obviously able to change and influence that when we were in the pits of despair in February, and force his Lamberts removal.

Sherwood is a Fox appointment, albeit sanctioned by Lerner.
I would guess the same levels of loyalty and friendship do not exist between Lerner and Sherwood and so if/when Fox decides to be ruthless, I think it will be a lot sooner than if it was Lerners decision.

Good, I don't want jobs for mates and back slapping and all that bollocks. I want the best man available for the job and if he doesn't cut the mustard I want him sacked.

[paul richard]

If we lose v Stoke and then Chelsea, then I think Risso is right.  We'll be goners.  We would be marooned in the bottom three with 4 pts from 9 games.  I know other sides have recovered from desperate positions in recent seasons (Leicester last season, Crystal Palace the one before) but they are the exception rather than the rule.  Can you honestly see us recover from such a low ebb with TS in charge?  Not a chance.  The only outside chance would be to jettison TS sharpish and then gamble on some one else to come in and somehow perform miracles with a demoralised squad.  I wouldn't be putting money on it.  That's why beating Stoke is so important.  Others on here are blithely talking about giving TS until Christmas etc but I believe we are already closer to the last chance saloon than might be apparent at first glance. 

[Clampy]

I think one concern Sherwood will have is a lack of allies if things continue to go tits up.
Lambert was on 6 foot of concrete because he was a Lerner appointment, and there was obviously some kind of 'bond' between them and (the contract renewal proved) there was a tremendous amount of loyalty between them.
Fox was obviously able to change and influence that when we were in the pits of despair in February, and force his Lamberts removal.

Sherwood is a Fox appointment, albeit sanctioned by Lerner.
I would guess the same levels of loyalty and friendship do not exist between Lerner and Sherwood and so if/when Fox decides to be ruthless, I think it will be a lot sooner than if it was Lerners decision.

Good, I don't want jobs for mates and back slapping and all that bollocks. I want the best man available for the job and if he doesn't cut the mustard I want him sacked.

Replaced by who?

[aj2k77]

I think one concern Sherwood will have is a lack of allies if things continue to go tits up.
Lambert was on 6 foot of concrete because he was a Lerner appointment, and there was obviously some kind of 'bond' between them and (the contract renewal proved) there was a tremendous amount of loyalty between them.
Fox was obviously able to change and influence that when we were in the pits of despair in February, and force his Lamberts removal.

Sherwood is a Fox appointment, albeit sanctioned by Lerner.
I would guess the same levels of loyalty and friendship do not exist between Lerner and Sherwood and so if/when Fox decides to be ruthless, I think it will be a lot sooner than if it was Lerners decision.

Good, I don't want jobs for mates and back slapping and all that bollocks. I want the best man available for the job and if he doesn't cut the mustard I want him sacked.

Replaced by who?

Not my job mate, I don't have any contacts or much knowledge of football managers around the world. I'm also not involved in football so have no links to agents who drip feed information. I'd hope we have employed someone who does have this kind of knowledge though, like a CEO.

[DB]

The squad last year was poor and playing a brand of football that made them look even worse. Sherwood came in and altered the way we approached the game. This gave the players a lift and they looked as though they were enjoying the game.

Some of the players then slipped back into their old ways and Clark picked up an injury that completely disorganised the defence over the final few matches.

Many in the squad had to be replaced and we were unfortunate that two of our best players wanted to leave. If Benteke and Delph had stayed, I wonder how much Sherwood would have had to spend.

Football is very much a squad game these days as cover for injuries/suspensions is essential (as we full know). There will always be players left out, even out of the match day squad but we need that cover. We still have glaring weaknesses in the squad. When you couple this with inexperience and a few injuries, it is a recipe for a team to struggle.

I have been hugely disappointed with results but in most games I have seen something positive. This was not the case last year, when relegation looked odds-on after the Hull match. Last season's experience shows that it's a fine line between relative success and failure. If we can put out a balanced and settled side, pick up a bit of confidence, get a better rub of the green, things could turn around.

I really hope he does turn it around and it all come together soon, I am sick of this every season, but I was never this worried at this stage of the season in PL's years as I am now.

[Clampy]

I think one concern Sherwood will have is a lack of allies if things continue to go tits up.
Lambert was on 6 foot of concrete because he was a Lerner appointment, and there was obviously some kind of 'bond' between them and (the contract renewal proved) there was a tremendous amount of loyalty between them.
Fox was obviously able to change and influence that when we were in the pits of despair in February, and force his Lamberts removal.

Sherwood is a Fox appointment, albeit sanctioned by Lerner.
I would guess the same levels of loyalty and friendship do not exist between Lerner and Sherwood and so if/when Fox decides to be ruthless, I think it will be a lot sooner than if it was Lerners decision.

Good, I don't want jobs for mates and back slapping and all that bollocks. I want the best man available for the job and if he doesn't cut the mustard I want him sacked.

Replaced by who?

Not my job mate, I don't have any contacts or much knowledge of football managers around the world. I'm also not involved in football so have no links to agents who drip feed information. I'd hope we have employed someone who does have this kind of knowledge though, like a CEO.

Ahhh, that old chestnut, not my job.

[aj2k77]

Well why should I know which managers are possibly available to come to Aston Villa in the next 6 months? Don't be ridiculous.

[Clampy]

Well why should I know which managers are possibly available to come to Aston Villa in the next 6 months? Don't be ridiculous.

I'm not being ridiculous. I asked who you would replace him with? Fuck me, it's not the hardest question in the world.

[Risso]

I think one concern Sherwood will have is a lack of allies if things continue to go tits up.
Lambert was on 6 foot of concrete because he was a Lerner appointment, and there was obviously some kind of 'bond' between them and (the contract renewal proved) there was a tremendous amount of loyalty between them.
Fox was obviously able to change and influence that when we were in the pits of despair in February, and force his Lamberts removal.

Sherwood is a Fox appointment, albeit sanctioned by Lerner.
I would guess the same levels of loyalty and friendship do not exist between Lerner and Sherwood and so if/when Fox decides to be ruthless, I think it will be a lot sooner than if it was Lerners decision.

Good, I don't want jobs for mates and back slapping and all that bollocks. I want the best man available for the job and if he doesn't cut the mustard I want him sacked.

Replaced by who?

Not my job mate, I don't have any contacts or much knowledge of football managers around the world. I'm also not involved in football so have no links to agents who drip feed information. I'd hope we have employed someone who does have this kind of knowledge though, like a CEO.

Ahhh, that old chestnut, not my job.

And asking people to name a replacement isn't an old chestnut in itself?

[Clampy]

I think one concern Sherwood will have is a lack of allies if things continue to go tits up.
Lambert was on 6 foot of concrete because he was a Lerner appointment, and there was obviously some kind of 'bond' between them and (the contract renewal proved) there was a tremendous amount of loyalty between them.
Fox was obviously able to change and influence that when we were in the pits of despair in February, and force his Lamberts removal.

Sherwood is a Fox appointment, albeit sanctioned by Lerner.
I would guess the same levels of loyalty and friendship do not exist between Lerner and Sherwood and so if/when Fox decides to be ruthless, I think it will be a lot sooner than if it was Lerners decision.

Good, I don't want jobs for mates and back slapping and all that bollocks. I want the best man available for the job and if he doesn't cut the mustard I want him sacked.

Replaced by who?

Not my job mate, I don't have any contacts or much knowledge of football managers around the world. I'm also not involved in football so have no links to agents who drip feed information. I'd hope we have employed someone who does have this kind of knowledge though, like a CEO.

Ahhh, that old chestnut, not my job.

And asking people to name a replacement isn't an old chestnut in itself?

What's wrong with it? Sacking a manager is the easy part.

[ez]

I get the impression the Sherwood appointment was made as it was a quick and easy appointment to make. He was available and wouldn't take a lot on convincing to come. Also, we're probably paying him less than his predecessors due to his lack of experience. If he goes it could well be a similar criteria used to replace him.