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Offline aj2k77

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #540 on: September 29, 2015, 11:16:00 AM »
Haven't we spent net something like £14m over the past 2 season? Which would probably be in the bottom 5 of the division, couple that with it's been spent on struggling sides and rubbish inexperienced chancers and you can see why we've made no headway in to moving out away from relegation.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #541 on: September 29, 2015, 11:19:24 AM »
Matt - fair point re Leicester, but aren't they the exception rather than the rule? 

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #542 on: September 29, 2015, 11:19:59 AM »
I wouldn't sack him just yet. Give him another 10 games.

I think he needs to work out his best XI and how he wants them to play.

He's probably trying to over complicate things, thinking he's some tactical wizard.

We need to go back to basics. We're so bloody narrow.

It seems as if he's trying to get the full backs forward, which explains why he's picked Bacuna over Hutton in the earlier games.


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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #543 on: September 29, 2015, 11:21:06 AM »
WE need a centre half who has a bit of leadership about him, a couple of wide players who can cover the fullbacks and a midfielder who can make a tackle then pass it successfully to a team mate.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #544 on: September 29, 2015, 11:31:25 AM »
Our net spend is paltry . Said all summer we should have given TS the £40 benteke money PLUS another £25m minimum to spend . Of course there may be some held back for panic buys in Jan but I doubt it .
Lerner needed to invest and didn't AGAIN !!

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #545 on: September 29, 2015, 11:36:24 AM »
I think we've (just about) got the players, we need to find a way of getting them in a team and playing well.

How hard can that be?

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #546 on: September 29, 2015, 11:38:29 AM »
What do you mean didn't invest AGAIN? You're making it sound like he's not spent any money ever.

He did invest, he re-invested the money we had come in. He could have given Sherwood half of it, but he didn't. I'm sure there'll be some spent in January if we need to.

Online oldhill_avfc

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #547 on: September 29, 2015, 11:50:58 AM »
What do you mean didn't invest AGAIN? You're making it sound like he's not spent any money ever.

He did invest, he re-invested the money we had come in. He could have given Sherwood half of it, but he didn't. I'm sure there'll be some spent in January if we need to.

Seriously?

He loses a 1 in 2 striker and gets relatively peanuts for a quality midfielder and you think Sherwood should have been able to replace them and rebuild a squad that has narrowly avoided relegation for 3 years on £20m?

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #548 on: September 29, 2015, 11:55:50 AM »
What do you mean didn't invest AGAIN? You're making it sound like he's not spent any money ever.

He did invest, he re-invested the money we had come in. He could have given Sherwood half of it, but he didn't. I'm sure there'll be some spent in January if we need to.

Seriously?

He loses a 1 in 2 striker and gets relatively peanuts for a quality midfielder and you think Sherwood should have been able to replace them and rebuild a squad that has narrowly avoided relegation for 3 years on £20m?

No, that's not what I meant. I said that Lerner could have kept half of it back but he didn't. Giving him £20m would have been ridiculous.

Online oldhill_avfc

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #549 on: September 29, 2015, 11:59:47 AM »
What do you mean didn't invest AGAIN? You're making it sound like he's not spent any money ever.

He did invest, he re-invested the money we had come in. He could have given Sherwood half of it, but he didn't. I'm sure there'll be some spent in January if we need to.

Seriously?

He loses a 1 in 2 striker and gets relatively peanuts for a quality midfielder and you think Sherwood should have been able to replace them and rebuild a squad that has narrowly avoided relegation for 3 years on £20m?

No, that's not what I meant. I said that Lerner could have kept half of it back but he didn't. Giving him £20m would have been ridiculous.

Fair enough.

However, there's onging underinvestment.

I know all about the ludicrous money wasted in the MON years, but those are sunk cost - money that's gone forever. 

We are where we are and to move forward with any degree of surity there needs to be a step change in investment.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2015, 12:03:40 PM by oldhill_avfc »

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #550 on: September 29, 2015, 12:00:28 PM »
Re net spend.  Would it have been better to have spent an extra million on each player to get the figure up over £20M?  How many more players should we have bought when we're already talking about players needing to bed in?

Re starting all over again and writing off £50M.  Why would we.  I don't think too many people are questioning the general quality of the players he/the club have recruited, it what he's doing with them that's worrying some people.

Re Pearson keeping Leicester up from an unlikely position last year.  He'd been there for 4 years and built that squad himself, which was for the most part relatively settled. It wasn't unreasonable to think that he was going to get the most out of that squad, just as the opposite was true for Lambert here.

Speaking for myself my concern with Sherwood is I have no confidence in that he knows what he's doing.  Yes he's barely been here for 5 minutes, but to revert to an earlier building analogy, if you've signed a contract with a builder to do some work, but a couple of days into a 6 month job you work out he's a cowboy who got the job primarily because he was available and your mate knew him you'd find another builder and tell the first one to whistle.  The costs of sorting out the contract being secondary to not having to pull down the building built on sand foundations.

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #551 on: September 29, 2015, 12:41:56 PM »
We should have bought a right back and a decent centre forward, that much is pretty clear. The forward should have been the number 1 priority this summer, not replacing Benteke with pretty much an 1 season unknown and championship striker.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #552 on: September 29, 2015, 12:43:09 PM »
3 goals in 7 games, of which he's played maybe 4 total, isn't too bad a start.

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #553 on: September 29, 2015, 12:46:01 PM »
3 goals in 7 games, of which he's played maybe 4 total, isn't too bad a start.

Don't get me wrong, I like Gestede, but he's incredibly limited. Maybe he will pick up a bit but at the moment he's a one trick pony, all be it a great trick. I just don't see him as a striker you can work a team around, he adds nothing apart from headers.

I would like to see Ayew playing with him though.

Offline pbavfckuwait

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #554 on: September 29, 2015, 12:49:25 PM »
I voted undecided, but a point getting missed and I am sure someone will have the exact figures, but from the buying of all these players and the point being to instill a winning mentality, my concern is we have had a minimum of 6 players in each game that were here last year at some time on the pitch, who obviously were part of the losing mentality and have been for at least the last 12 months. Guzan, Gabby Hutton and Westwood standing out in that bunch for alot longer than 12 months, all a bit worrying as to how the new manager has assessed the new group, while always allowing for injuries, these seem to be clearing so the next couple of games should be interesting.

 


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