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Offline robbo1874

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #510 on: September 29, 2015, 05:21:34 AM »
My patience has gone, it went a while ago, I can't be arsed with Jam tomorrow all the time, promises of better to come, the decent players will have fucked off again and we will be starting from scratch. I can't be arsed being an academy for inexperienced managers where they go through a litany of fuck ups in front of us with the hope they will learn from it.

It's not Sherwoods fault in particular, although he's been a complete clown this season so far, it's more the collective weight of 5 years of fuck up after fuck up and incompetent decision after incompetent decision and I just have no time for it anymore. It's shit.
mate- I completely understand this and I'm as fucked off by it as you are, believe me. Just don't think the time is now to get rid. We've got to give him at least til Jan to fix up.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #511 on: September 29, 2015, 07:03:39 AM »
If Sherwood is given time, how we give it is very important to the standing of the club and not least of all to our ability to attract future managers of proven ability.

I was not overjoyed at the arrival of Sherwood but I accepted the cold truth of our situation and believed him to be the least bad solution. As I commented earlier Villa's compulsion to roll the dice on managerial selections has put us in a no-man's-land with the season barely begun. With a certain amount of hindsight it was always likely to happen, given the inexperience of the new manager and the colossal damage done going right back to the MON preemptive strike.

The next two months will see the situation resolved one way or the other.  The Sherwood team will either start to get some traction and ease our problems or it will continue to stagger and misfire. In either case Sherwood is entitled to respect. If he goes he must be allowed to go with dignity without cockney chancer levels of abuse and if he comes good and stays he is entitled to expect support and the knives to be put away.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2015, 07:09:18 AM by brian green »

Offline pbavfckuwait

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #512 on: September 29, 2015, 07:07:21 AM »
Agree fully with that Brian, but as stated elsewhere, he really needs someone to advice and council him on his reactions with the press, if not and results continue, he will be cutting his own throat with the supporters.

Offline brian green

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #513 on: September 29, 2015, 07:19:49 AM »
Totally agree Kuwait.  He has too high a regard for his own communication skills.  It is very hard for somebody who thinks they are silver tongued and witty to accept that they are not.  Some people regard modesty as a form of loss of face when it is actually quite the reverse. See the calm and fair comments about the England rugby team by the Welsh skipper Warburton (who was in the thick of the titanic battle) with the delirious crowing of the welsh pundits. Sadly I can't see Sherwood improving his communication skills and time soon.

Offline Californian Villain

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #514 on: September 29, 2015, 07:31:30 AM »
His interactions with the press remind me a lot of John Gregory - the need to attract attention seems to come before the substance of what he's actually saying. Yet he deserves at least half a season to get his team sorted out.

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #515 on: September 29, 2015, 07:59:00 AM »
His interactions with the press remind me a lot of John Gregory - the need to attract attention seems to come before the substance of what he's actually saying. Yet he deserves at least half a season to get his team sorted out.
Half a season could be too long though, if after 19 games we are say sub 15 points he needs to go or we will be dead and buried.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #516 on: September 29, 2015, 08:06:00 AM »
I am in total agreement with Brian. Alarm bells may be ringing but we are still due several slaps of the snooze button before we are compelled to get up and go to work.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #517 on: September 29, 2015, 09:17:39 AM »
It all started to go wrong for me when he continually picked Gabby to lead the line, i havn't read one poster who agreed with him. His team selection for The Liverpool game was a disaster he has seen enough of his players to see what they can do how come he gets it so badly wrong?

Offline RussellC

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #518 on: September 29, 2015, 09:37:36 AM »
So you think he's doing an ok job?

He kept us up against the odds. Surely that's a better stick to judge him by than our first 7 games of the following season?

Yes, in my book he's doing an ok job.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #519 on: September 29, 2015, 09:40:23 AM »
Overall, he's not done too badly. He's made mistakes and some of his subs have been baffling to say the least but he was brave enough to overhaul the squad (and let's face it, it was needed) so I think he deserves the chance to try and make it work. 7 games is nowhere near enough with a new squad of players.

Offline passport1

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #520 on: September 29, 2015, 09:52:52 AM »
The poll appears to have swung around since I last checked. More now wanting to hold fire.
Personally I felt he was a disastrous appointment and what is unfolding now doesn't surprise me in the least.

Perhaps the poll reflects a' better the devil you know' train of thought but I suspect in the long run this is one devil we will all regret knowing.

Offline mattjpa

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #521 on: September 29, 2015, 09:54:07 AM »
7 weeks ago almost everyone on here were back slapping Sherwood and Fox for the best Summer of business we had seen in years. Fast forward to now and Fox is getting ripped apart and 30% of people want Sherwood sacked immediately?! Honsetly, re-read those two sentences and try and comprehend how ridiculous it is. People really need to pull themselves together. Inexperenced manager, new young, inexperienced squad, best players have left the club on short notice. Honestly, what were people expecting? Yes, some results have gone the wrong way but it was always going to take time.

We have lost almost every game by one goal. There are strong signs of Ayew, Gestede, Richards, Veretout, Gana, Traore and Amavi getting up to speed and looking like really good additions. Exisiting players like Sanchez, Clarke and Gil seem to be coming on as well. We have good players like Okore coming back from injury and two players signed that we havent even seen yet.

I agree, we need to see an upturn in fortunes in the near future but hold your shit togther people, we will turn this round.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #522 on: September 29, 2015, 10:00:28 AM »
The poll appears to have swung around since I last checked. More now wanting to hold fire.
Personally I felt he was a disastrous appointment and what is unfolding now doesn't surprise me in the least.

Perhaps the poll reflects a' better the devil you know' train of thought but I suspect in the long run this is one devil we will all regret knowing.

I imagine the change in the poll more likely reflects that it started minutes after the final whistle on Saturday but as time has gone on more balanced responses have seen a changed in the percentages.

Offline Bulldog

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #523 on: September 29, 2015, 10:01:06 AM »
I would give him until the end of November. If we have no signs of improvement then he has to go. You don't sign so many players without any idea of how they might play together or what is the planned style of play. Unfortunately I cannot see sign of either of these. Get a new face in to assess the squad in December ready for the transfer window. Don't ask who tough as I wouldn't trust the board of AVFC to sign the best suited person for the job. Based on the other managerial appointments "which have been a joke". We were promised an attacking style of play and the removal of the loosing mentality ? We are now apparently aiming to stay in the premier league!!
I feel the pain will continue, until the club is sold and the whole direction of the club can be changed.
I think we may go down this season I will be very surprised if we stay up ( but God I hope I'm wrong )

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #524 on: September 29, 2015, 10:05:15 AM »
7 weeks ago almost everyone on here were back slapping Sherwood and Fox for the best Summer of business we had seen in years. Fast forward to now and Fox is getting ripped apart and 30% of people want Sherwood sacked immediately?! Honsetly, re-read those two sentences and try and comprehend how ridiculous it is. People really need to pull themselves together. Inexperenced manager, new young, inexperienced squad, best players have left the club on short notice. Honestly, what were people expecting? Yes, some results have gone the wrong way but it was always going to take time.

We have lost almost every game by one goal. There are strong signs of Ayew, Gestede, Richards, Veretout, Gana, Traore and Amavi getting up to speed and looking like really good additions. Exisiting players like Sanchez, Clarke and Gil seem to be coming on as well. We have good players like Okore coming back from injury and two players signed that we havent even seen yet.

I agree, we need to see an upturn in fortunes in the near future but hold your shit togther people, we will turn this round.

Bravo

I would like to add that at this moment in time who the hell would we attract that is better? Talk of Alladyce et al I find bizarre

 


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