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Offline olaftab

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #345 on: September 28, 2015, 09:26:29 AM »
We've had to fit in a bunch of new players but that's not enough to excuse 5 points from 7 games.
5 points would be nice!

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #346 on: September 28, 2015, 09:37:13 AM »
he performed a minor miracle here last season and anyone saying otherwise was deluded about our plight back then
We were in trouble  but hardly a miracle. He moved us from 3rd to 4th bottom. We were not stranded at the bottom 10 points off safety.
I guess we won't take any action till we are deep in shit but I do hope that is not the case and things start to improve very soon however I do not like him and he is not the man for us long term IMO.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #347 on: September 28, 2015, 09:45:06 AM »
Tell us who would be the man for you, seriously. If some of us are going to defend him, we ought to know who his critics would prefer.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #348 on: September 28, 2015, 09:52:44 AM »
I'm not saying the day won't come when we will need to see the back of him
But we would be a laughing stock if we fired him this early into the season, absolute laughing stock, knee jerk doesn't even begin to cover it

Can you imagine letting Sherwood go after 6 games and bringing Sam Alardyce in, you might as well put the Big Top over the ground and have done with it

we might be used to people laughing at our expense more than we wish, but we shouldn't be encouraging it

It shouldn't matter one iota what other people think.  The only thing that matters is what's right for the club.

People thought Southampton were nuts for ditching Atkins, but they were right to.

If we wait until November / December or whenever we arbitrarily decide it's OK to ditch him because now we won't get laughed at it might be too late.

We were a laughing stock 8 months ago for letting that other chancer take the piss for too long.  I'd rather get laughed at for having an itchy trigger finger than laughed at for getting relegated.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #349 on: September 28, 2015, 09:53:07 AM »
Sherwood’s still got credit in the bank for me. We were headed down under Lambert and Sherwood turned us around. Immediately saw that Grealish was ready for the first-team, and as a ‘number 10’ and not a winger. Got performances our of Cleverley and Vlaar and set the team up to play to the strengths of Agbonlahor and Benteke.

However, almost immediately after keeping us up he lost Vlaar, Cleverley, Benteke and Delph. Expecting him to replace those players with the cash he’s had – let alone improve upon the overall quality of the squad is a massive- and unrealistic - ask. We always knew this season was going to have a huge transition. We’ve got a rookie manager and a rookie team. Mistakes were always going to be made, on and off the pitch. To be having this conversation in September is far, far too early in my opinion, and very unfair on Sherwood.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #350 on: September 28, 2015, 09:54:56 AM »
I'm not suggesting they sack him, but Fox & Lerner need to decide sharpish (December a the latest) - they can't leave it till February this time.

The thing is, it's a different situation to last time. Lambert was in his third season and we hadn't progressed, if anything we'd gone backwards. It was an achievement if we'd got a corner in some games, never mind score. This time round, we're scoring goals but leaking them in and whilst that's a worry, it can be rectified and I think he deserves time to sort it.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #351 on: September 28, 2015, 10:00:28 AM »
Tell us who would be the man for you, seriously. If some of us are going to defend him, we ought to know who his critics would prefer.

This really. Sacking the bloke is the easy part.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #352 on: September 28, 2015, 10:05:26 AM »
Tell us who would be the man for you, seriously. If some of us are going to defend him, we ought to know who his critics would prefer.

This really. Sacking the bloke is the easy part.

I'm not advocating change, but Marcelo Biesla.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #353 on: September 28, 2015, 10:07:23 AM »
I know this is probably a knee-jerk reaction and proof that O'Leary was right we are all fickle etc etc
We really, really are though aren't we? I've lost count of the number of our 'supporters' that wrote Jordan Ayew off after a few substitute appearances, only to come full circle after a good half in the League Cup and then criticise the Manager for not starting him away at Anfield.

Same goes for Gestede. Loads of our fans had written him-off as not good enough for the Premiership. It's September for Christ's sake. Everybody needs to calm down. Collectively, we're starting to sound worryingly similar to West Ham or Newcastle fans.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #354 on: September 28, 2015, 10:08:29 AM »
Tell us who would be the man for you, seriously. If some of us are going to defend him, we ought to know who his critics would prefer.

This really. Sacking the bloke is the easy part.

I'm not advocating change, but Marcelo Biesla.

Pepe Mel?

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #355 on: September 28, 2015, 10:11:00 AM »
I know this is probably a knee-jerk reaction and proof that O'Leary was right we are all fickle etc etc
We really, really are though aren't we? I've lost count of the number of our 'supporters' that wrote Jordan Ayew off after a few substitute appearances, only to come full circle after a good half in the League Cup and then criticise the Manager for not starting him away at Anfield.

Same goes for Gestede. Loads of our fans had written him-off as not good enough for the Premiership. It's September for Christ's sake. Everybody needs to calm down. Collectively, we're starting to sound worryingly similar to West Ham or Newcastle fans.
How anyone can accuse our fan base of being fickle after the easy ride the last two numpties have got is beyond belief.

The lack of patience with Sherwood is in part driven by coming so close to going down, partly because we'd been to accommodating and accepting of all the bullshit and lies.  There's just no appetite for it amongst a good proportion of people looking at the poll so far.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #356 on: September 28, 2015, 10:11:11 AM »
I think talk of sacking is madness.  He's lost our best two players and Vlaar.  Major surgery was needed, not justa bit of tinkering.  Some of the players he has bought in show real promise - in particular Amavi and Gueye.  I think a lot of us have hopes that Veretout & Ayew will come good too.  Jury out on Gestede, but he's found the net a few times.

He has a plan, but it will take a bit of time.  Surely the last thing we need to to start the whole cycle again?  I think we have a decent squad, lets see if the man who has put it together (at a net spend of virtually nil) can make it work hey?

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #357 on: September 28, 2015, 10:11:43 AM »
I will say though that some of his team selections have been odd and his subs have been baffling to say the least (the Leicester game being the main example) but I think he'll learn from it.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #358 on: September 28, 2015, 10:13:32 AM »
Tell us who would be the man for you, seriously. If some of us are going to defend him, we ought to know who his critics would prefer.

This really. Sacking the bloke is the easy part.

I'm not advocating change, but Marcelo Biesla.

Not so sure - the way he left Marseilles was very MON-esque

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #359 on: September 28, 2015, 10:15:03 AM »
I think talk of sacking is madness.  He's lost our best two players and Vlaar.  Major surgery was needed, not justa bit of tinkering.  Some of the players he has bought in show real promise - in particular Amavi and Gueye.  I think a lot of us have hopes that Veretout & Ayew will come good too.  Jury out on Gestede, but he's found the net a few times.

He has a plan, but it will take a bit of time.  Surely the last thing we need to to start the whole cycle again?  I think we have a decent squad, lets see if the man who has put it together (at a net spend of virtually nil) can make it work hey?


Bringing in Richards and Traore was good business as well and I think we'll see a very good player in Veretout in time.

 


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