Poll - Sherwood - got rid

[Risso]

We get to hear Sherwood, what a couple of times a week, maybe more if there's a midweek game, and for what a couple of minutes each time?

Whereas the players have to listen to this bullshit nonsense/ramblings of a madman/deflecting all blame away from himself/the revision of history/referring to himself in the third person, etc. more or less every day, and for what probably seems like for hours on end!

Now imagine you had a tosser like that in charge at work...wouldn't everyone rip the shit out of him behind his back, while basically having no respect for the poor sod whatsoever? Our players have probably decided Timmeh! is a complete twat with little or no chance of him still being there by the end of the season.

I didn't expect to get much from the game yesterday, we all should've realised that it's going to take time and some experimentation to find the right formation to fit the players we've bought. The club's been in a downward spiral for years now, and there's no overnight solution to that...However, I do expect that we should be able to compete with the likes of Bournemouth, Norwich, Watford et al and at least look like we might have enough to stay up. But the simple fact is we look nailed on for relegation at this rate, and I for one can't see any signs of progress, even the tiniest step on a learning curve, or any coherent tactical plan at all.

Seven games is probably not enough to fairly judge, but he makes such a twat of himself the whole time, it's hard not to come to the conclusion the guy's anything more than a no-hoper.

It never ceases to amaze me that people can assume they know what happens in the dressing room or what players actually think. As for your suggestion that we should be competing with the likes of Bournmouth, Norwich and Watford. Well we've only played one of those teams and we beat them. I realise that's nothing to write home about but it's too early to suggest we can't get out of this situation

The next two games are vital.  We're already 3 points off the heady heights of 16th place, if we were to get say only 1 point, I don't think we'd recover.

[KRS]

If we start the Stoke game with Gabby, Lescott and Westwood in the team we might as well just fire him on the spot because he hasn't a fucking clue.

There may be something in that decision making process. If he starts those players then we're more than likely lose against Stoke, and if we do lose then we'll be bottom of the league by the end of October (if not sooner).

[adam#1]

It depends if he's capable of learning or not on a personal level. I'm genuinely unsure of that as things stand. He's got some good qualities - he's identified good players, the best we've bought in a while, he seems good at man-management and communicating with the media. But he's made some gash decisions around formations and playing style at times. If he can demonstrate he can learn from that and kick on himself there's the makings of a good manager in there. If he can't then his career will free-fall and I don't want him taking our club with him.

[john e]

I agree John, he did a great job in keeping us up, and you're right he gave the whole club a lift after 3 years of that incompetent turd Lambert.  But that doesn't mean he's going to work out as anything other than a short term caretaker type, I just don't think he's got the skills or ability to be successful long term I'm afraid.  I could be wrong but it's not looking very promising.  I think we could be deep in the brown stuff by the time October has finished, as I can't see us getting more than 3 points from the next 4 games.

I know the concept of 'gut feeling' is not exactly scientific, but when we appointed Keane my gut feeling was that it'd end in tears, relatively quickly.

I got the same gut feeling when we appointed Sherwood.

Your gut feeling the day we appointed Sherwood was that he would take us down,
he didn't he saved us

So forgive me for not taking to much notice of your gut feelings just yet

[aev]

I agree John, he did a great job in keeping us up, and you're right he gave the whole club a lift after 3 years of that incompetent turd Lambert.  But that doesn't mean he's going to work out as anything other than a short term caretaker type, I just don't think he's got the skills or ability to be successful long term I'm afraid.  I could be wrong but it's not looking very promising.  I think we could be deep in the brown stuff by the time October has finished, as I can't see us getting more than 3 points from the next 4 games.

I know the concept of 'gut feeling' is not exactly scientific, but when we appointed Keane my gut feeling was that it'd end in tears, relatively quickly.

I got the same gut feeling when we appointed Sherwood.

Your gut feeling the day we appointed Sherwood was that he would take us down,
he didn't he saved us

So forgive me for not taking to much notice of your gut feelings just yet

You saying pauli got bad guts?

[russon]

I'm more patient than most regards Sherwood but was horrified to hear him set the bar for success at 17th. I appreciate we're not Real Madrid but to have an aspirational target as pathetic as that gives the players entirely the wrong message. And while he talks about this being his first full  season, we've suffered five seasons of unadulterated bilge and are not prepared to tolerate yet another season of so called consolidation. Up with this guff we shall not put Timothy, pull your finger out, lead and drive the club don't apologise for it.

[aev]

I think Pardew is an arrogant so and so but he has a Palace team well organised, and filled them with belief. There are maybe 3 or 4 of their players that I would have over ours but he has them flying.

We have an arrogant so and so that seems unable to do the same with our players unfortunately.

[KRS]

I'm pretty sure TS said that the aim was to avoid relegation and didn't specify anything about the final position at the end of the season...why are ppl are assuming that he'd be happy with 17th or are we just making things up as we go along and putting words into his mouth? Sure 17th is the lowest position that does avoid relegation but he has not stated that 17th is what he's aiming for. I'm also pretty sure that he stated a few weeks ago that our only target was to stay in the league this season given the amount of changes in the playing staff.

[Nelly]

Even the players that he has brought in, how much of that has been down to Villa's in-house scouting network? Paddy O'Reilly et al?

[silhillvilla]

291 votes is a fairly good sample data (even if it is all nutters on an Internet football forum) , and the vote shades it saying he stays . For now. Let's see what Saturday brings.

[paul richard]

Back in the summer of 2012 Lambert was welcomed with open arms (by most) on the basis of (a) a relatively successful few years at Norwich and (b) not being McLeish.  We were told that financial belt-tightening was in order and young and hungry new players would take us forward.  On this basis the supporters cut Lambert a lot of slack, and in all my time as a Villa supporter (44 yrs and counting) I cannot remember the supporters as a whole showing more patience.  Even after the disastrous Christmas 2012/January 2013 (the 15-0 Christmas defeats, Bradford, Millwall etc) the consensus was that Lambert should be given time.  Our faith was not repaid.  Two years were lost whilst Lambert fiddled, the club drifted, and Christian Benteke kept us afloat.  After Lambert, the supporters won't get fooled again.  Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.  We've seen the signs.  Baffling team selections, poor in-game management, bizarre substitutions, individual errors, late goals conceded, defeat snatched from the jaws of victory, relentlessly bad home form and the manager coming out with comments in the media that make you wonder if he was at the same game as you.  For Lambert, read Sherwood.  We can't allow ourselves to sleepwalk in to the same drift.  Despite the fact that we may have better quality players in the squad this time around there's little sign that Sherwood can build a team that can find a way to win premier league matches, and now there's no Benteke to come to the rescue.  If results and performances do not pick up very quickly we will need to jettison Sherwood fast.  Stoke is a must win, pure and simple, and if we don't get a decent return from Chelsea, Swansea and Tottenham, then he has to go. 

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

Get rid. The sooner we can get somebody else in who we will then also want to get rid of the better. 

[paul richard]

No one wants to get rid of managers just for the sake of it, but results and performances speak for themselves.
 

[silhillvilla]

Back in the summer of 2012 Lambert was welcomed with open arms (by most) on the basis of (a) a relatively successful few years at Norwich and (b) not being McLeish.  We were told that financial belt-tightening was in order and young and hungry new players would take us forward.  On this basis the supporters cut Lambert a lot of slack, and in all my time as a Villa supporter (44 yrs and counting) I cannot remember the supporters as a whole showing more patience.  Even after the disastrous Christmas 2012/January 2013 (the 15-0 Christmas defeats, Bradford, Millwall etc) the consensus was that Lambert should be given time.  Our faith was not repaid.  Two years were lost whilst Lambert fiddled, the club drifted, and Christian Benteke kept us afloat.  After Lambert, the supporters won't get fooled again.  Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.  We've seen the signs.  Baffling team selections, poor in-game management, bizarre substitutions, individual errors, late goals conceded, defeat snatched from the jaws of victory, relentlessly bad home form and the manager coming out with comments in the media that make you wonder if he was at the same game as you.  For Lambert, read Sherwood.  We can't allow ourselves to sleepwalk in to the same drift.  Despite the fact that we may have better quality players in the squad this time around there's little sign that Sherwood can build a team that can find a way to win premier league matches, and now there's no Benteke to come to the rescue.  If results and performances do not pick up very quickly we will need to jettison Sherwood fast.  Stoke is a must win, pure and simple, and if we don't get a decent return from Chelsea, Swansea and Tottenham, then he has to go.

Nail on head

[Chris Jameson]

I agree John, he did a great job in keeping us up, and you're right he gave the whole club a lift after 3 years of that incompetent turd Lambert.  But that doesn't mean he's going to work out as anything other than a short term caretaker type, I just don't think he's got the skills or ability to be successful long term I'm afraid.  I could be wrong but it's not looking very promising.  I think we could be deep in the brown stuff by the time October has finished, as I can't see us getting more than 3 points from the next 4 games.

I know the concept of 'gut feeling' is not exactly scientific, but when we appointed Keane my gut feeling was that it'd end in tears, relatively quickly.

I got the same gut feeling when we appointed Sherwood.

Your gut feeling the day we appointed Sherwood was that he would take us down,
he didn't he saved us

So forgive me for not taking to much notice of your gut feelings just yet

From that quote it isn't what he actually said.