Liverpool vs Aston Villa post match thread

[Monty]

Martin Laursen has just ripped into us and Sherwood on the post match analysis.

1. Playing defensively doesn't just mean parking the back 4 on the edge of the box and the midfield 10 yards further forward.
You need to still know how you're going to move the ball forward and get players around your forward(s).
2.If you're playing defensively someone as immobile as Gestede is probably not the best option as your lone forward.
3. Regardless of who's playing up front, you can't leave them as isolated as Gestede was for large chunks of the game.
4. When you've ripped them apart just a few months ago, then why start off so negative?

Maybe the sentimental calls for Laursen to be manager had more going for them than we thought. At least he sounds less naive and more clued-up than our current chump.

[aev]

Serious question - how long do we give him?

[mr woo]

So we sink into the relegation zone this early in the season. Could even be bottom two if Newcastle win.

I wonder if there's a clause that says we can  sack Sherwood in these circumstances. The bigger question would be whether Tom Fox would have the balls to do it.

It's one thing sacking someone else's man, but another entirely to admit YOUVE appointed the wrong man in the first place.

It'll be dull, but Fat Sam would get better results. Moyes could be tempted back? Unfortunately,  I doubt Klopp would even consider us.

[Goldie.7]

Tim needs more time, I wouldn't sack him on the basis of being crap for a few games while an almost entirely new team gels.

How about because he obviously doesn't have a clue tactically and we can't afford to have someone learning on the job.

He's had 20 League games: 12 Loses, 6 Wins, 2 Draws.

We've lost three in a row and if Defoe was on his game it would be 6 straight league defeats, this donkey has got 2 or 3 more games left for me, then that's it.

[wolfman999]

Serious question - how long do we give him?

5.30 tonight

[curiousorange]

Christ, if Klopp came to the Villa the place would be standing room only. Unfortunately it would be more likely you'd see Jesus Christ having a go at kicking the ball from the Holte End at half time.

[Ian.]

Serious question - how long do we give him?

5.30 tonight

5 more minutes then?

We need someone with the intelligence to use these continental technically gifted new players we have bought.
I presume our scouts sounded these players out and not the numpty we have in charge?

[Des Little]

Our passing and ball retention (or lack of) is our downfall. The amount of times we lost or gave the ball away in crucial areas today was staggering. We create our own problems, and if Sherwood can't sort it out and quick I'd suggest we get someone in who can.

[Risso]

My scores:

Guzan - 6 - don't really think he was at fault for the goals and made a couple of good saves
Hutton - 6 - looked to get forward but was beaten to easily at full back time and time again
Lescott - 4 - poor for their goal, and poor all game
Richards - 6 - not the commanding force he was on Tuesday
Amavi - 7 - assist again, and the one bit of class we appear to have
Westwood - 3 - an absolute nothing player, when they were dominating the midfield was nowhere to be seen, and his set pieces are dreadful
Sanchez - 4 - supposed to be the enforcer in our side but was hopeless at it
Gueye - 5 - looked to me like this game was too early for him, as he looked no better than anybody else.
Grealish - 5 - not his day at all today, the game largely passed him by
Sinclair - 4 - what does he do, what is he for?
Gestede - 8 for the two goals, 4 for his all round play, average 6.  Great in the air, wooden, shit and slow at everything else.

Tactics Tim - 2 - facking dreadful mate.  Less than 30% possession in the first half so carries on with the same witless football until we go 2-0 down.  Hasn't got the first clue.

[Smirker]

I'm not sure why people are so certain Klopp wouldn't give us a go. His options would be few as he isn't going to magae in Germany and said he will manage in a country where he speaks the language and that is English & German.

It's basically a Prem team.

[eamonn]

His post match comments are worrying. Giving it the whole "This season is about staying up, judge me on next year" . Not exactly what he said at the end of last season. We lost two great players but the combined fee received was re-invested and enough to make us a comfortable mid-table side.

[Ads]

Utter fucking shite.

We sat so deep against bang ordinary opposition, gifting them so much time and space it was a joke. We played with such little tempo.

We have a player up front who when facing the opposition goal in the 18 yard box is unstoppable. Why are we asking him to do a job with his back to goal and thirty yards from it?

Grealish was poor, Westwood his usual pedestrian self. Our defending was diabolical.

The second time we got forward and squared them up we scored, because they're piss poor. We can't defend, we lack organisation and discipline to pick up the runners, so why did we come with such a deep line, the midfield five yards in front and refusing to press?

The answer is he manager has not got a fucking clue and is taking us down.

I am fucked off that we are suffering another moron in charge of the club for the 6th season of shit. Fuck off Sherwood.

[Risso]

I'm not sure why people are so certain Klopp wouldn't give us a go. His options would be few as he isn't going to magae in Germany and said he will manage in a country where he speaks the language and that is English & German.

It's basically a Prem team.

I think he'd want a team with at least an outside chance of Champions League football, not a half-arsed set of non-entities like Villa.

[Smirker]

His post match comments are worrying. Giving it the whole "This season is about staying up, judge me on next year" . Not exactly what he said at the end of last season. We lost two great players but the combined fee received was re-invested and enough to make us a comfortable mid-table side.

Link mate?

His comments recently have become slightly more disturbing. I remember him saying his only remit was to keep us up. If I were a player and my manager was coming out with that I wouldn't exactly feel motivated.

[Matt Collins]

We're changing team, shape and tactics every game and it's not working

There are a lot of questions about Sherwood at the moment

Deserves more time though. Losing the entire spine of an already shit team was massive.