Aston Villa 1 Knuckledraggers crawl back under their stones 0 Post match thread.

[PeterWithesShin]

Any win in a derby is fine by me, I'll take 1-0 every time. I'm sure its been said but first half was awful, no creativity, no width, nothing. Second half much better, Grealish changed the game, fuck knows what Ayew was on but that was a different player to the one we've seen so far, hopefully he'll kick on from here.
They'll be attempting to claim some morale victory but that defeat will hurt them like fuck, they'll all be lying awake thinking of that chance in the second half... I hope it riles them for weeks.

Yep. No matter how much they play it down and come out with stuff like "it was only 1-0" "we expected to lose" etc, we know that in reality, it's fucking killing them. Which is nice.

[QuintonVilla]

What exactly happened at the Aston Tavern before the game then? Saw some of their peaky blinder clampits giving it the big un on Twitter.

[PeterWithesShin]

What exactly happened at the Aston Tavern before the game then? Saw some of their peaky blinder clampits giving it the big un on Twitter.

The most serious incident of the evening was reported at around 6pm when several windows were smashed at the Manor Tavern Pub in Portland Street, with one person suffering a minor head injury.

Officers responded quickly and arrested eleven men in connection with the incident.

In total 28 people were arrested throughout the evening and they will be questioned by officers about offences including violent disorder, affray, invading the pitch, drunk and disorderly behaviour and breaching banning orders.

[PeterWithesShin]

Given their track record for knowing their way around the city they all live in, would anyone be surprised they are saying "they did" the Aston Tavern if it was in fact the Manor Tavern they were at?

[saunders_heroes]

What a sweet result. Crawl back under your rocks you Bluenosed bastards!

[nigel]

Great to get a win and see Ayew do well. Now my stream was atrocious so how did Veretout get on?

Veretout did well in the first half even though our midfield was over run at times.
He was very good in the second half, too, as Ayew and Jack ran them ragged.

[UK Redsox]

just back home after a detour to drop off some lazy bugger who can't be arsed to catch the bus. 

Apart from the win, the best thing was seeing Timmay get the substitutions spot on. As wrong as he got them against Leicester, he got them right tonight.

Much more confident about Ayew after today. I thought he was very good, especially in the way he linked up with Jack.

[FrankyH]

Did Savospit get banned or was he run over by one of those coaches that came from small heath.

[PeterWithesShin]

None of our new friends from Solihull seem so keen to come and talk to us tonight. I wonder why*?


*Some were banned it should be mentioned

[nigel]

Guzan 6, Bacuna 6, Richards 6, Lescott 4, Amavi 6, Veretout 6, Westwood 6, Gabby 4, Sinclair 5, Gestede 6 - Ayew 9, Grealish 9

Hutton and Sanchez needed back in, not sure about Sinclair maybe Richardson as a third midfielder instead for the weekend

You gave Lescott a 4??
He'd have been lucky to get a 2 in my book

[PeterWithesShin]

just back home after a detour to drop off some lazy bugger who can't be arsed to catch the bus. 

You love me really.

[cdbearsfan]

What exactly happened at the Aston Tavern before the game then? Saw some of their peaky blinder clampits giving it the big un on Twitter.

The most serious incident of the evening was reported at around 6pm when several windows were smashed at the Manor Tavern Pub in Portland Street, with one person suffering a minor head injury.

Officers responded quickly and arrested eleven men in connection with the incident.

In total 28 people were arrested throughout the evening and they will be questioned by officers about offences including violent disorder, affray, invading the pitch, drunk and disorderly behaviour and breaching banning orders.

I'd imagine just 28 arrests is a bit of a success for the police.

The Birmingham City Mail, with their pre-emptive Helen Lovejoy panicky nonsense, will be doubly-disappointed by tonight's proceedings.

[old man villa fan]

A few observations that I picked up on:

1. Clark has lost that mobility he had when he played midfield under Houllier and looked like a centre half in midfield.  Perhaps coming on as a sub when we need to shore up the defence and sitting just in front of the back four but never when we want to be taking the game to the opposition.

2.  Veretout has an awareness that Westwood will never hope to have.  Things didn't come off for him in the 1st half with his passing but he grew into the game and when he decided to really get involved he played some really intelligent football, with good link play and passing.

3.  Ayew showed more desire to be involved in the game in one half than I have seen from Gabby in all the games this season.  Some of his first time control was very good, something that Gabby could only dream about.

4.  Lescott cannot play week in week out.  I think I would go with Clark and have Lescott as the back up.

5.  Gestede cannot play with his back to goal.  Crosses have to come in from the side of the penalty area or slightly at an angle.  Did notice that once Gabby was off the pitch his movement was far better and therefore do not think 4-4-2 suits him.

6.  Westwood is a tidy player but faced with two lines of 4 defenders in front of him, he cannot play incisive balls through the gaps and that is why he plays so many square balls across the face of the first bank of 4.  He will not take the lead and instead pases the buck to another player.  He was the senior midfield player on the pitch and should have been able to take the game by the scruff of the neck but he does not have the ability to do that.  As others have said, the things he can do well, other players can do that and more.  His dead ball play is not up to standard.

7.  Amavi is a great overlapping fullback but we need to create the space for him to run into.  Other players have to drag that first midfield player inside away from the touchline.  Give him the space and he will get to the right position to cross and he will put in accurate crosses.

8.  Our central defenders/defensive midfield players have to be more assertive when going for the ball i.e. put their name on it and go for it.  Otherwise we end up with 3 players going for the same ball and the Keystone Cops routine of them all falling over and presenting the ball to the opposition.

9.  Everything has been said about Grealish but he needs to build up to playing for 90 minutes and dictate the flow of the game.

10.  Sherwood has got to bring Veretout and Ayew into the team and persevere with them because they do look as though they have more in them than what else we have.

11.  We need pace in the team at times and the sooner Traore is fit the better.  He needs to be brought on as sub at the right time in games.  I do not think he is anywhere near starting games in the PL and needs introducing slowly but regularly.

12.  I have been critical of the fans over the last couple of games but thought they got behind the team from the start and for most of the game.  It went a bit flat during the first half and still do not agree with the booing at half time.  I believe booing gives more of a lift to the opposition than a kick up the backside to the Villa players, who are suffering through lack of confidence.  That said, the positives far outweighed the negatives and hardly heard their fans.
 

[saunders_heroes]

Some bitter Noses over on sha.com. Ha ha!

[PeterWithe]

What exactly happened at the Aston Tavern before the game then? Saw some of their peaky blinder clampits giving it the big un on Twitter.

Nowt, the place was packed with coked up Villa lads, the gaffer asked for the Police to have a van outside, they then closed the place.