Aston Villa vs. West Brom Post-Debacle Thread

[Liam_Baggies]

Well after our recent surrenders here it was refreshing to see an Albion side actually bully you on your home turf.

I thought we deserved the win and that's the best we've played under Pulis. We were well organised as usual, stifled the game but was a lot more effective with the ball.

Equally, you lot were very poor. No tempo with the ball, plenty of pointless possession and then bottled it when approached by Fletcher and Yacob. There was no movement upfront and every time I saw you cross the ball came as a relief because I knew there was no chance of your guys beating McAuley, Dawson or Evans in the air. There was plenty of laughing and criticism on here when we signed Evans but I thought he was top notch yesterday.

I think the worrying thing for you lot is that even in the second half when you were chasing the game, we still controlled the tempo of the game and created more chances.

The one noticeable thing was how much you missed Fabian Delph. He normally controls the game against us but not having him there was such a relief - nobody to link midfield and attack and his industrious style which sees him normally terror our midfield and centre halves.

[john e]

fuck that was bad, pitiful effort to get an equaliser too. They were weak defensively out wide yet we kept trying to play scrums in the middle

In some areas of the team we are getting worse, Guzan is definitely going to throw one in very very soon, centre back partnership is a bombscare, Lescott's legs are totally gone and is a pointless signing, Amavi defensively again cost us points today, no structure to our midfield and a non existent goal threat. About the only positives were Hutton was solid defensively and Sanchez put in a good shift too. West Brom as damn average as they are, deserved the victory. Played smarter football and had a genuine threat up top.

Our forwards are not mobile or clever enough to be running onto nice passes from Gil or Grealish, Blackburn did well by getting the ball wide and pinging quick crosses to Gestede. We dont have those kind of players available though.

Guzan 4, Hutton 7, Richards 5, Lescott 4, Amavi 4, Westwood 5, Sanchez 7, Gil 6, Grealish 5, Gabby 5, Sinclair 4 - Gestede 5, Bacuna 7, Veretout 5

so you watched the whole of this match yesterday and going on your individual scores you think Guzan was the equal worst player on the pitch ?

I honestly do not know what game some people watch sometimes

[CJ]

Fair enough summary Liam. What I would say is we missed two key midfielders yesterday - Gana/Gueye, who is an upgrade on Delph, and Adama Traore, who would have given us pace, width and a more attacking threat. Those two in the team and it would have been a different game, but you're right - we were piss poor yesterday and (*through gritted teeth*) you deserved the points

[brontebilly]

fuck that was bad, pitiful effort to get an equaliser too. They were weak defensively out wide yet we kept trying to play scrums in the middle

In some areas of the team we are getting worse, Guzan is definitely going to throw one in very very soon, centre back partnership is a bombscare, Lescott's legs are totally gone and is a pointless signing, Amavi defensively again cost us points today, no structure to our midfield and a non existent goal threat. About the only positives were Hutton was solid defensively and Sanchez put in a good shift too. West Brom as damn average as they are, deserved the victory. Played smarter football and had a genuine threat up top.

Our forwards are not mobile or clever enough to be running onto nice passes from Gil or Grealish, Blackburn did well by getting the ball wide and pinging quick crosses to Gestede. We dont have those kind of players available though.

Guzan 4, Hutton 7, Richards 5, Lescott 4, Amavi 4, Westwood 5, Sanchez 7, Gil 6, Grealish 5, Gabby 5, Sinclair 4 - Gestede 5, Bacuna 7, Veretout 5

so you watched the whole of this match yesterday and going on your individual scores you think Guzan was the equal worst player on the pitch ?

I honestly do not know what game some people watch sometimes

yep, he played like a pub player in the second half I thought

[taylorsworkrate]

Well after our recent surrenders here it was refreshing to see an Albion side actually bully you on your home turf.

I thought we deserved the win and that's the best we've played under Pulis. We were well organised as usual, stifled the game but was a lot more effective with the ball.

Equally, you lot were very poor. No tempo with the ball, plenty of pointless possession and then bottled it when approached by Fletcher and Yacob. There was no movement upfront and every time I saw you cross the ball came as a relief because I knew there was no chance of your guys beating McAuley, Dawson or Evans in the air. There was plenty of laughing and criticism on here when we signed Evans but I thought he was top notch yesterday.

I think the worrying thing for you lot is that even in the second half when you were chasing the game, we still controlled the tempo of the game and created more chances.

The one noticeable thing was how much you missed Fabian Delph. He normally controls the game against us but not having him there was such a relief - nobody to link midfield and attack and his industrious style which sees him normally terror our midfield and centre halves.

Fair enough analysis. I do think we were absolutely horrendous and your lot didn't have to do particularly much to beat us.

It was annoying watching your lot time waste from pretty much the start of the second half though. The officials should have been a lot stronger on that

[Hoppo]

I was sat directly inline with Guzan in the 2nd half. He not once caught the ball first time. Everything spilled. It will cost us during the season.
As for his 'distribution' ..

[Steve kirk]

Albion did a proper job on us and did it well, as soon as they nicked a goal there was no way back, whenever we attacked they very quickly got 9 men back behind the ball leaving just Rondon up top, defensively in the main were more solid than previous years, midfield about the same as long as Gana plays the majority of games, up front though is very worrying as Benteke is such a huge miss, Gestede and Rudy appear at the moment to be very average forward additions, I am very concerened, 6 points required from next 4 games to give us points parity after 10 matches, we will be lucky to get 2.

[silhillvilla]

When did we last come from behind to win a football match ?

[Legion]

Liverpool in the FA Cup?

[silhillvilla]

Liverpool in the FA Cup?

Oh yes of course although I was thinking more In the league ? Was it the Norwich 4-1 ??

[Walmley_Villa]

When did we last come from behind to win a football match ?

FA Cup semi?

[Bob M]

I agree with all of you we deserve better let's start at the top Lerner just sell the club at a low price and go

[SoccerHQ]

I was sat directly inline with Guzan in the 2nd half. He not once caught the ball first time. Everything spilled. It will cost us during the season.
As for his 'distribution' ..

Apart from the Rondon header?

[PeterWithesShin]

When did we last come from behind to win a football match ?

Notts County.

In the league, Leicester at home last season.

[Chris Smith]

Out of interest was that handball in the second half inside the area? I could not tell from my seat but a lot of people nearby seemed convinced.