Aston Villa vs. West Brom Post-Debacle Thread

[Clampy]

There was a bloke in front of us who was laying into Sanchez all game. He got through an awful amount of work which is instantly forgotten when he gives the ball away. I thought he was our best player to be honest even if the competition wasn't that great.

[Lastfootstamper]

Welp. This sounded fun. Was at a wedding with Albion in-laws yesterday, which was great.

Were we really that bad, or is there a bit of hyperbole on here?

I'm struggling to recall even one incident where I'd say we should've scored. Nothing from closer than twenty yards out. Maybe one headed opportunity second half that cleared the bar by some distance. Anything on target, of which there was little, had all the potency of a well-placed back-pass. Think I'm correct in saying that we didn't win a corner for about an hour. An aimless performance that could easily be catalogued alongside many of those in the four years which preceded it. A tad disappointing.

[Pat McMahon]

What an awful day, thanks to a combination of the M25 and M40 I didn't get to my seat until just before the goal and it was pretty obvious we weren't getting back into the game.  We don't ever look like scoring at home, no one takes a chance, it takes ages to put a cross in, we never up the tempo when we go behind, it's as though we accept our fate.  Adama might have made a difference with his pace and unpredictability, the lad has plenty of pressure on him when he returns.
The only slight bit of entertainment was watching Rudy throw himself at any ball in the air, and failing most the time!
All in all a shocking day, bring on Tuesday!

I had similar problems v Sunderland so left half an hour earlier yesterday. On both occasions I had to run from the car for a kilometre to just make kick off. Yesterday was  just shite all round.

I thought Guzan, distribution aside, and Richards were not awful but most of the rest of the team were well below par. Gabby showed a few sparks of life but other than that we were poor going forward. Sinclair was utterly anonymous and Gestede probably needs proper crosses from the byline and not a general hoof into the box from deep. I have a sinking feeling about him, but desperately hope I am wrong.

Re Gil, he had a fair amount of possession but took a lot of touches and spent a lot of time moving laterally. He wasn't helped by a lack of movement in front of him. Grealish had a few promising moments but was generally peripheral. When we lose possession neither seems strong enough to help defensively.

Westwood had the worst game I have seen from him. He was awful.

[Lastfootstamper]

There was a bloke in front of us who was laying into Sanchez all game. He got through an awful amount of work which is instantly forgotten when he gives the ball away. I thought he was our best player to be honest even if the competition wasn't that great.

There's a bloke two seats down from me who I'm convinced has stopped watching the game as a whole so that he can concentrate on his main task of keeping a tally of how many times Sanchez loses possession. Never a mention of anyone else, just Sanchez. I'm with you. He needs help alongside him other than Ashley "nothing more ambitious than ten yards sideways" Westwood.

[silhillvilla]

Using the weird logic of football we will probably win our next 2 and then lose at home to stoke

[DB]

We beat them twice in the space of a week last season (and denied them a day out at Wembley) so this is one we'll have to take on the chin i'm afraid.

What strange logic.
I don't care about them, or taking one on the chin for them, I want to see us win, whoever it it we play.

It's not strange logic, we were playing a local rival so defeat is always that bit more gutting to take. You might not care if we lose to them, but some people do.

What I meant was that I don't want to take one on the chin as we beat them 2x in a week last season, we should be beating them all the time. I am more bothered about our performance than past results vs them.

[Tony Erdington]

Welp. This sounded fun. Was at a wedding with Albion in-laws yesterday, which was great.

Were we really that bad, or is there a bit of hyperbole on here?

I'm struggling to recall even one incident where I'd say we should've scored. Nothing from closer than twenty yards out. Maybe one headed opportunity second half that cleared the bar by some distance. Anything on target, of which there was little, had all the potency of a well-placed back-pass. Think I'm correct in saying that we didn't win a corner for about an hour. An aimless performance that could easily be catalogued alongside many of those in the four years which preceded it. A tad disappointing.

totally agree with ALL that

[Clampy]

We beat them twice in the space of a week last season (and denied them a day out at Wembley) so this is one we'll have to take on the chin i'm afraid.

What strange logic.
I don't care about them, or taking one on the chin for them, I want to see us win, whoever it it we play.

It's not strange logic, we were playing a local rival so defeat is always that bit more gutting to take. You might not care if we lose to them, but some people do.

What I meant was that I don't want to take one on the chin as we beat them 2x in a week last season, we should be beating them all the time. I am more bothered about our performance than past results vs them.

I'd like to be beating them all the time as well, we all would. Every now and again though we're not going to and as annoying as it is, it's one we have to take.

[Tayls_7]

There was a bloke in front of us who was laying into Sanchez all game. He got through an awful amount of work which is instantly forgotten when he gives the ball away. I thought he was our best player to be honest even if the competition wasn't that great.

There's a bloke two seats down from me who I'm convinced has stopped watching the game as a whole so that he can concentrate on his main task of keeping a tally of how many times Sanchez loses possession. Never a mention of anyone else, just Sanchez. I'm with you. He needs help alongside him other than Ashley "nothing more ambitious than ten yards sideways" Westwood.

Both of you are spot on. Carlos Alberto and Gil were our best performers yesterday. Just because you follow the Villa doesn't mean you're not a moron. Reminds me years ago when I used to sit behind a bloke with a pathological hatred of Earl Barrett. I can still hear him screaming his name dozens of times a game even now.

[Risso]

We beat them twice in the space of a week last season (and denied them a day out at Wembley) so this is one we'll have to take on the chin i'm afraid.

What strange logic.
I don't care about them, or taking one on the chin for them, I want to see us win, whoever it it we play.

It's not strange logic, we were playing a local rival so defeat is always that bit more gutting to take. You might not care if we lose to them, but some people do.

What I meant was that I don't want to take one on the chin as we beat them 2x in a week last season, we should be beating them all the time. I am more bothered about our performance than past results vs them.

I'd like to be beating them all the time as well, we all would. Every now and again though we're not going to and as annoying as it is, it's one we have to take.

I'd settle for beating anybody at the moment.

[Marlon's Hairy Wood]

There was a bloke in front of us who was laying into Sanchez all game. He got through an awful amount of work which is instantly forgotten when he gives the ball away. I thought he was our best player to be honest even if the competition wasn't that great.

He seems to be an easy target. I don't think anyone can question his ability to win the ball back and he often sprays 20 yard passes that go completely unnoticed because of how easy he makes it look, but as soon as he makes a slight error he'll get dogs abuse

One of the main things causing me irritation at games is how he can be quick to get stick, yet Westwood seems to get away with things despite being the inferior player, just because he's good at going into hiding.

[Clark W Griswold]

Sanchez was sloppy at times but I think he made up for it every time by getting the ball back. He was everywhere and as pointed out, better than Westwood who I barely noticed was playing.
Guzan and all the defenders were ok (and in Amavi's case very good). Gill and Grealish flattered to deceive I thought. Gabby was pretty poor, Sinclair and subsequently Gestede pretty anonymous.

[tomd2103]

There was a bloke in front of us who was laying into Sanchez all game. He got through an awful amount of work which is instantly forgotten when he gives the ball away. I thought he was our best player to be honest even if the competition wasn't that great.

He seems to be an easy target. I don't think anyone can question his ability to win the ball back and he often sprays 20 yard passes that go completely unnoticed because of how easy he makes it look, but as soon as he makes a slight error he'll get dogs abuse

One of the main things causing me irritation at games is how he can be quick to get stick, yet Westwood seems to get away with things despite being the inferior player, just because he's good at going into hiding.

I think that's partly to do with the fact when he does make mistakes they tend to be absolute howlers.  The bloke behind me yesterday was absolutely hammering Grealish, so I don't think it's just Sanchez who is singled out. 

[tomd2103]

Sanchez was sloppy at times but I think he made up for it every time by getting the ball back. He was everywhere and as pointed out, better than Westwood who I barely noticed was playing.
Guzan and all the defenders were ok (and in Amavi's case very good). Gill and Grealish flattered to deceive I thought. Gabby was pretty poor, Sinclair and subsequently Gestede pretty anonymous.

Not sure about that at all.  His defending looked suspect on a few occasions and pulled out of a couple of challenges including the one in the build up to their goal.

[Chris Smith]

A poor game won by the marginally less shit team.

I still think we need to show patience. Most of us recognised it would take a few months for a team to emerge after the turnover of players this summer which has been compounded by injuries. Like most people I am still undecided on Sherwood but he at least deserves time to see what his players can do once they are bedded in.