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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #3570 on: June 18, 2022, 12:19:54 PM »
Best rugby club team in the world won yet another super rugby title tonight. Go the Crusaders.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #3571 on: June 18, 2022, 01:41:31 PM »
Best rugby club team in the world won yet another super rugby title tonight. Go the Crusaders.

Clean forgot about this.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #3572 on: June 19, 2022, 11:08:33 AM »
England vs Barbars this afternoon. Looking forward to seeing Freeman, I think he's the player that Jones has been trying to turn Malins or Daly into so I really hope he forces his way in.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #3573 on: June 20, 2022, 12:23:44 PM »
England tour squad

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The eight uncapped players in the squad are Patrick Schickerling of Exeter Chiefs, London Irish duo Henry Arundell and Will Joseph, Northampton Saints' Fraser Dingwall and Tommy Freeman, Leicester Tigers' Guy Porter and Jack van Poortvliet, along with Jack Walker of Harlequins.

England squad:
Forwards: Ollie Chessum (Leicester Tigers), Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs), Tom Curry (Sale Sharks), Charlie Ewels (Bath Rugby), Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers), Jamie George (Saracens), Joe Heyes (Leicester Tigers), Jonny Hill (Exeter Chiefs), Nick Isiekwe (Saracens), Maro Itoje (Saracens), Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints), Lewis Ludlam (Northampton Saints), Bevan Rodd (Sale Sharks), Patrick Schickerling (Exeter Chiefs), Will Stuart (Bath Rugby), Sam Underhill (Bath Rugby), Billy Vunipola (Saracens), Mako Vunipola (Saracens), Jack Walker (Harlequins), Jack Willis (Wasps).

Backs: Henry Arundell (London Irish), Danny Care (Harlequins), Joe Cokanasiga (Bath Rugby), Fraser Dingwall (Northampton Saints), Owen Farrell (Saracens), Tommy Freeman (Northampton Saints), George Furbank (Northampton Saints), Will Joseph (London Irish), Joe Marchant (Harlequins), Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby), Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs), Guy Porter (Leicester Tigers), Harry Randall (Bristol Bears), Jack van Poortvliet (Leicester Tigers), Marcus Smith (Harlequins), Freddie Steward (Leicester Tigers).

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #3574 on: July 02, 2022, 11:09:48 AM »
Ireland were poor this morning, played into NZ hands with their tactics, however I was really disappointed with the ref who let NZ make a lot of professional fouls on their try line before eventually punishing them with minutes left on the clock and the game clearly long done.

On to Australia vs England. On paper the England team is stronger by a fair degree but it really depends which team turns up. I'm slightly disappointed by the bench, doesn't look like there's a huge amount of impact there outside Ludlam and LCD. Arundell is a bit of a wildcard though, but I think he's mostly there so we can get him capped and stop him going anywhere else.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #3575 on: July 02, 2022, 11:34:02 AM »
England 6-0 up and Australia have lost their Fullback with what looks like a really nasty broken arm.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #3576 on: July 02, 2022, 11:52:39 AM »
I’m watching this with Aussie commentary and by Christ they are salty. From the kick-off too, continual low-level sniping essentially about how the ref is being conned by England, but the red card has led to a new level of bitchy whining.

Edit : HT now. Both teams look comically bereft of ideas with ball in hand compared to the Japan-France match this morning. I don't watch the club game and don't grasp union tactics much, but I fail to see how Marcus Smith is the next great thing, all I see is a little jump then get wrapped up by the first tackler.
« Last Edit: July 02, 2022, 12:06:21 PM by luke:lamf »

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #3577 on: July 02, 2022, 12:20:00 PM »
I’m watching this with Aussie commentary and by Christ they are salty. From the kick-off too, continual low-level sniping essentially about how the ref is being conned by England, but the red card has led to a new level of bitchy whining.

Edit : HT now. Both teams look comically bereft of ideas with ball in hand compared to the Japan-France match this morning. I don't watch the club game and don't grasp union tactics much, but I fail to see how Marcus Smith is the next great thing, all I see is a little jump then get wrapped up by the first tackler.

I'm watching the same and I agree, the commentary is pathetic.

Smith needs more runners, his game at quins is about dragging defenders around to create gaps to put runners through, Engliand right now aren't running those lines and he's having to just carry into contact. Vunipola is a big part of the problem because he just doesn't do that. Ludlam will be on later and I suspect he will be more willing to make those runs.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #3578 on: July 02, 2022, 12:36:12 PM »
I missed that Ludlam was already on at halftime but I think he is helping us look more dangerous , hard to know how much is down to the red card though really.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #3579 on: July 02, 2022, 12:43:58 PM »
Whilst I recognise red cards are necessary, I always feel they destroy rugby games a lot more than football.

As for Smith, if that’s his game, then we should surely be building around that then ? Otherwise might as well put Farrell at 10 and try and find a decent centre pairing. Just strikes me that, for the hype, I’ve not seen Smith manage a game like Wilkinson or Carter, nor tear a defence a new one like Barrett or Carter.

Of course, Aus have scored now I say that red cards kill rugby matches…

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #3580 on: July 02, 2022, 12:55:38 PM »
Jones shouldn’t be allowed to see this series out, why the fuck is Farrell even out there let alone playing absolutely shite.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #3581 on: July 02, 2022, 01:08:22 PM »
That last 20 minutes was pathetic 2 very late tries can't hide the fact that we collapsed as completely as I've ever seen.

Also Farrell is there for his kicking game and he missed a couple of important chances that should be taken at this level.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #3582 on: July 02, 2022, 01:14:15 PM »
That’s a terrible result. Like anything you get to end of a cycle with coaches/management. It’s been clear that Jones should have finished after the 2019 World Cup.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #3583 on: July 02, 2022, 04:04:51 PM »
That last 20 minutes was pathetic 2 very late tries can't hide the fact that we collapsed as completely as I've ever seen.

Also Farrell is there for his kicking game and he missed a couple of important chances that should be taken at this level.

Thing is, mate, Smith is an excellent kicker, too, so I can’t understand why Farrell gets in these days.
I like Farrell, but now is the time to move on.

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Re: International Rugby
« Reply #3584 on: July 02, 2022, 06:16:11 PM »
South Africa win with the final kick of the game.

 


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