Aston Villa vs Sunderland Post-Match Thread

[Ron Manager]

I really enjoy watching Amavi,Sanchez and Gana. They seem to know what they are doing. You will find Veretout does as well when he gets used to the pace of our game.

[villadelph]

Sorry when you said it was a "must win game " I thought you meant it was a must win game

I don't like not taking chances either but going into hyperbolic panic mode with 34 games left to play is just absurd

Sunderland at home is not a game we have to win, either. There aren't any such games until you start running out of matches left to play.

I assume Bournemouth away was not on this have to win list, mind, so imagine you'll be balancing this result out with that one?

What a terrible approach.

But still miles better than the wailing loudly and long that we're all doomed to inevitable relegation just because we're only twelfth in the league.

I said we played well? I think bringing up we're 12th in August is worse than complaining about a result that should've been a victory.

I quite agree - it's ridiculous to even suggest that the league table matters at the moment, just like describing anything as a "must-win game" in August would be absolutely daft.

How do you figure? I thought collecting points was the name of the game, no?

Are February points worth more than August points? Or do points only matter when you really need them?

I'd like to avoid the desperation, you seem content with it.

And for the record, as I stated before, I'm not saying exclusively that August games are must win. I am simply saying against an absolutely awful Sunderland side at home its a must win no matter when it is.

[PaulWinch again]

Compare how we look going forward today to how we looked last time at home to Sunderland. We have the potential for this to be a more than decent side.

As for Gil, after not playing for a while was probably too much of an ask to start today after Tuesday. I'm interested in seeing the 'dive' again. And quality time wasting from them starting pretty much when they equalised. How it tookcso long to book the keeper is beyond me.

Did not look like a dive to me, he left his foot there.

[SoccerHQ]

Should be winning that being 2-1 up at half time. Sunderland weren't that awful but I'd be surprised if there's three poorer teams in the league than them.

For me the key was Sherwood simply not reacting to the two Sunderland changes, Defoe suddenly dropping deep and collecting the ball and a sloppy goal where Clark went to ground far too quickly.

That's why we struggle to finish high up the league, we simply don't win enough home games, two gone already we haven't won.

We need better than Gestede upfront aswell, just don't see it with him, he's mediocre controlling and laying off the ball.

Get in a decent striker, Lescott and hope Grealish and Traore can stay fit and play in the same 11 and we can have a decent season.

No new striker and continual injuries and it will be a struggle up to xmas.

[mr underhill]

14m on Gestede and Ayew isn't looking like a wise investment right now - although I'm sure both with contribute over the season. We need an experienced goal scorer in before the deadline and as vocal as I have been about him, Adebayor would improve us provided he's fit and committed to the cause.

[citizenDJ]

It's a shame Clark has had a couple of poor matches. After a torrid time I was beginning to think he could be a really solid defender, but I always have this nagging feeling that he would easily be replaced and improved upon. I don't really know who by, though, although it might turn out to be Lescott.

I know it tends to be looked on as favourable having a left-footer on the left of the defence, but I still feel that Okore is the better player.

[Fin Feds Dad]

Gestedes movement made Gabby look like Mo Farah.

Bacuna is an appalling footballer and should be nowhere near the first team . Madness to give him a longer contract .

Sherwood is as tactically inept as General Custer at Little Bighorn . Out thought twice in two weeks by managers making subs at half time .

Minimum requirements this week - new goalkeeper - new forward. We will get another defender .

Not happy .

[PaulWinch again]

Gestedes movement made Gabby look like Mo Farah.

Bacuna is an appalling footballer and should be nowhere near the first team . Madness to give him a longer contract .

Sherwood is as tactically inept as General Custer at Little Bighorn . Out thought twice in two weeks by managers making subs at half time .

Minimum requirements this week - new goalkeeper - new forward. We will get another defender .

Not happy .

Massive overreaction. Sherwood wasn't tactically out thought. Their equaliser came from a terrible defensive error. We completely dominated the second half and should have won.

[Matt Collins]

I'll ignore the hyperbole

With grealish and traore I think we win that. With benteke we definitely do

Guzan 7
Hutton 7
Richards 7
Clark 6 (I couldn't really tell what happened with the goal)
Amavi 7
Westwood 6
Sanchez 7
Gueye 8
Bacuna 5
Gestede 4
Sinclair 8

Gil 7

[oswald funkletrumpet]

No excuses.  Not beating Sunderland at home is totally unacceptable.  It says a lot that even with the amount of work done in the Summer that we are still well short.

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think that is 4 wins in 19 at home which is appalling. this time next year we will be millionaires.

oh and sunderland are really shit

[LTA]

Sorry when you said it was a "must win game " I thought you meant it was a must win game

I don't like not taking chances either but going into hyperbolic panic mode with 34 games left to play is just absurd

Sunderland at home is not a game we have to win, either. There aren't any such games until you start running out of matches left to play.

I assume Bournemouth away was not on this have to win list, mind, so imagine you'll be balancing this result out with that one?

What a terrible approach.

But still miles better than the wailing loudly and long that we're all doomed to inevitable relegation just because we're only twelfth in the league.

I said we played well? I think bringing up we're 12th in August is worse than complaining about a result that should've been a victory.

I quite agree - it's ridiculous to even suggest that the league table matters at the moment, just like describing anything as a "must-win game" in August would be absolutely daft.

How do you figure? I thought collecting points was the name of the game, no?

Are February points worth more than August points? Or do points only matter when you really need them?

I'd like to avoid the desperation, you seem content with it.

And for the record, as I stated before, I'm not saying exclusively that August games are must win. I am simply saying against an absolutely awful Sunderland side at home its a must win no matter when it is.

Sunderland were abysmal.  I'm stunned that so many seem content with a point.  Yes it is work on progress, but we still look vulnerable at the back and have only Sinclair who looks like scoring.  That's AFTER spending over 40 million.

[Toronto Villa]

Where have you found anyone content with a point? There are just some of us who haven't jumped off a bridge like you.

[Rigadon]

Aston Villa manager Tim Sherwood: "Anyone who watched that game knows that we should have won. We had 22 shots, the keeper has pulled off a 'worldy' save and we should have had a penalty. We have been robbed.
"It definitely should have been a penalty. Younes Kaboul pulls out but there's contact - it is a penalty. My team couldn't have done any more today."

[Matt Collins]

Gestedes movement made Gabby look like Mo Farah.

Bacuna is an appalling footballer and should be nowhere near the first team . Madness to give him a longer contract .

Sherwood is as tactically inept as General Custer at Little Bighorn . Out thought twice in two weeks by managers making subs at half time .

Minimum requirements this week - new goalkeeper - new forward. We will get another defender .

Not happy .

He wasn't tactically out thought at all. Sorry to criticise but that's just a classic knee jerk response

Sunderland had two genuine chances. We had about 8, including many in the second half.

[Toronto Villa]

On any other day with 22 shots were scoring a few of them. Creating chances is critical and we are doing that. That will lead to goals and wins this season.