Crystal Palace v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[black pearl of inchicore]

Can we pawn off Agbonlahor for this chap.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3QtbD5jHK0&app=desktop

Can't beat a bit of scottish firepower.

[black pearl of inchicore]

Can we pawn off Agbonlahor for this chap.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3QtbD5jHK0&app=desktop

I'd say the cat got some kicking after he turned off his phone........

[black pearl of inchicore]

Can we pawn off Agbonlahor for this chap.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3QtbD5jHK0&app=desktop

And this is only the 5th game in....

[warleyboy]

I'm not going to get carried away with this result, or even the two previous.
I expected a loss against a decent palace side, and also expect us to bounce back against Sunderland.
As it is, there has not been much difference in the class of all our opposition so far, whilst we have a new team bedding in.
Only real negative is Gabby, he has to start on the bench.

[Ads]

We weren't abysmal in the first half at all, we were easily the better side.

[brian green]

To clear up two points about what I believe and why. They are my opinions honestly expressed, I do not expect or want universal agreement. Firstly Gabby's weight. Like many of us I have watched his entire career with us. What made an outstanding player and got him capped for his country was his blistering pace. He was very quick. His whole game was built on his speed. As he has piled on weight his game has steadily deteriorated. Weight is a barometer of fitness level and throughout the game the fatter players get with age the slower and poorer they play. In Gabby's case even as far back as GH who knew a thing or two about football Gabby was slowing and we were told he was weight training and "bulking up".  That is not muscle round his midriff, it is fat. He does not have the range of football skills to compensate for his declining speed. If he is to play any part in the new Villa we hope is around the corner he has to get quicker and lighter. Sprinters like Alan Wells, John Regis and Peter Radford were in their prime at Gabby's age. I love Gabby, I have a shirt with his name on the back but he has been allowed to exist in the comfort zone for too long and it shows. My opinion.
As for Libor and why he cannot be thrown in the deep end I agree he had a good game at Walsall  but he paid for it at Forest. He had a bad leg fracture which had to be re broken and re pinned. He is nowhere near match hard or match fit. He will no doubt feature on Tuesday and the game is tailor made as a step on the road to recovery but to see him as our regular centre forward on a weekly basis is both rash and risky. There seems to be a long overdue concern at the club towards protecting our investments. We have invested a lot of time and money in Libor. His rehabilitation should be planned and thought through fully. My opinion.

[silhillvilla]

So in short, Gabby is fat, Libor isn't match fit.
Agree, now let's go get Charlie Austin .

[Ian.]

A very measured and well rounded post Brian.

[Olof's Beard]

It was a brain dead way to lose what was a very good point, but we need to keep some perspective. Say what you like about Pardew, but he has done one heck of a job up there. They have won over 50% of his games in charge I believe, if they keep that form up they will be contenders for the top 6. It's a tough place to go yet we were well worthy of a point, until a bad substitution and a defensive catastrophe undid a lot of very decent work.

Sanchez was probably tired as he hasn't had much of a pre-season but you don't bring on a winger for him at a time in the match when the home side traditionally build pressure if it's goalless.

Positives: Sanchez, fairly solid defensively in general (Bacuna aside - that was one of his worst games for us), Grealish looked good and got kicked all over the place, Traore could be special. I thought Gestede had a good hour as well before tiring, people are being harsh on him.

Negatives: We can't have a right back letting his winger in behind him as often as Bacuna does, and I would play Hutton, Gabby who you really hoped would have taken some responsibility now Benteke has gone and we have a stack of new players but he just looks like yesterday's man, Gueye who got overran for me and struggled.

[dicedlam]

It beggars belief that he keeps picking Agbonlahor week in, week out.

As I've said on previous occasions, by the time his contract runs out again we will of paid another £8.5 mil in salary to watch this clearly unfit, clueless excuse for a footballer amble around a football pitch.

Mind boggling, it really is.



 

[Dante Lavelli]

It beggars belief that he keeps picking Agbonlahor week in, week out.

As I've said on previous occasions, by the time his contract runs out again we will of paid another £8.5 mil in salary to watch this clearly unfit, clueless excuse for a footballer amble around a football pitch.

Mind boggling, it really is.

What weekly wage are you using there?  Weren't the rumours that he took a pay-cut in his last deal? 

[Clampy]

Terrible play by Amavi trying to do go past a player in that position with 3 mins to go.

And it was cart horse Scott Dann who robbed him! Shocking
From the highlights we looked absolutely abysmal

No, we were not abysmal. The first half we actually played quite well. They made a couple of changes at the start of the 2nd and we never really got going again until Traore came on. We deserved a point and we would have got one had Guzan and Amavi hadn't fucked up between them.

[Dante Lavelli]

I agree Clampy.  I thought we played really well in the first half and there only looked like one team who could win it in the final stages.
Shit result but I don't think the performance was that bad from 75% of the players.

[silhillvilla]

Views seem to have shifted somewhat since pre-match thread where over 75% thought we would not lose the game.
Now it's Palace what a tough place to go etc etc.
this in my opinion is a poor result , yes it was a silly error but from what I've seen and read palace were worthy winners.

[Chris Smith]

Terrible play by Amavi trying to do go past a player in that position with 3 mins to go.

And it was cart horse Scott Dann who robbed him! Shocking
From the highlights we looked absolutely abysmal

No, we were not abysmal. The first half we actually played quite well. They made a couple of changes at the start of the 2nd and we never really got going again until Traore came on. We deserved a point and we would have got one had Guzan and Amavi hadn't fucked up between them.

I agree. Plenty of encouraging signs but we need to become a little more streetwise at both ends.