Aston Villa vs Manchester United Post-Match thread

[olaftab]

Yorke- ' WE lost Falcao, WE lost van Perse" .... Fuck off

C***! If only I had a gun😁

[mr woo]

Same opinion as the Bournemouth game. I ain't influenced by the result, I just haven't been impressed by our cohesion or performance so far.


I like Richards.
I like Gueye.
I really like Amavi.

Our back four is as disorganised as badly as at time since TSM was here. The coaching team and Sherwood are responsible for that.

Ayew. Omg. Not for me.

Veretout. Yeah he's neat but does he do anything Gary Gardner can't? AND Sanchez looked the better player in the time he was on anyway.

I'm no fan of Ashley Westwood,  but he was smashing today. Played it forward more than usual but set piece delivery needs work.

Sherwood.  hmmmmmm. Gestede and Kozak with a few high balls was worth a try with 15 minutes to go and he didn't go for it.  I also worry about his organisation. It all looks a bit 'try hard' so far.

I think it is way way way too soon to be making definitive judgements on the new players. They've never played together and they're clearly not match fit.

Cohesion I accept.

 Not match fit? Why the fuck not. When where they expecting the season to start?

I reserve the right to make a judgement on a player who appears unable to trap a ball. I'm not interested in could be or might be. That's a circa £10m signing who looks every bit a parks player up to now. And for the record, that's not a definitive statement for the future l. That's just an opinion on the evidence presented thus far.

[SoccerHQ]

Loved the mosaic on thr Holte at the start.

Keep on doing that for the big games please.

[Fin Feds Dad]

Thought amavi , Richards , gana and Sinclair did well .

Poor substitution from Sherwood .

Sick of the sight of Gabby strolling round in a villa shirt.

Usual woeful refereeing from Dean

[Crabman]

I reserve the right to make a judgement on a player who appears unable to trap a ball.

If you trap the ball surely that means it's stuck under your foot where you can't do anything with it?

[pelty]

Oh, and Mike Dean is a stone-cold wanker... how that mugging of Richards was not given as a penalty is beyond me... except that it would have been making a call against ManUre and we would not want that now, would we?

[SashasGrandad]

A bit annoyed by the despondancy here. Apart from a lack of cutting edge we were the better team. We played better than we have a right to expect given the dramatic change in personnel. We are certainly heading in the right direction which is a concept that has been absent for years.

I'm with you.  Despite being a team that has been mostly slapped together in the last couple weeks and missing a few good players, I thought we looked to be the better team for the most of the match.

Ditto

Ditto

We are miles better than under Lambert and the other TSM - we will be OK just just need a bit more up front.

[Caiphus]

The earlier season start with probably the same holiday period especially in a season break without international tournaments to worry about probably mean that our (and most teams) fitness is a couple of weeks behind where it would usually be at the start of the season, like it or not.  Footballers would have holidays built into their contracts just like anyone else that they are entitled to and wouldn't be cut short just because the season is starting earlier than usual... that extra week or two of fitness can make a huge difference.

[mr woo]

I reserve the right to make a judgement on a player who appears unable to trap a ball.

If you trap the ball surely that means it's stuck under your foot where you can't do anything with it?

Not sure of your age there mate but we always used the word 'trap' to mean 'bring under control'

[Villa in Denmark]

Same opinion as the Bournemouth game. I ain't influenced by the result, I just haven't been impressed by our cohesion or performance so far.


I like Richards.
I like Gueye.
I really like Amavi.

Our back four is as disorganised as badly as at time since TSM was here. The coaching team and Sherwood are responsible for that.

Ayew. Omg. Not for me.

Veretout. Yeah he's neat but does he do anything Gary Gardner can't? AND Sanchez looked the better player in the time he was on anyway.

I'm no fan of Ashley Westwood,  but he was smashing today. Played it forward more than usual but set piece delivery needs work.

Sherwood.  hmmmmmm. Gestede and Kozak with a few high balls was worth a try with 15 minutes to go and he didn't go for it.  I also worry about his organisation. It all looks a bit 'try hard' so far.

I think it is way way way too soon to be making definitive judgements on the new players. They've never played together and they're clearly not match fit.

Cohesion I accept.

 Not match fit? Why the fuck not. When where they expecting the season to start?

I reserve the right to make a judgement on a player who appears unable to trap a ball. I'm not interested in could be or might be. That's a circa £10m signing who looks every bit a parks player up to now. And for the record, that's not a definitive statement for the future l. That's just an opinion on the evidence presented thus far.

Because half of the team are imported recruits who've only joined in the last 10-12 days and:

the players we've brought in from France would have been training for a league that plays it's first round of fixtures this weekend and operates at a completely different tempo to ours
It will be even harder for the recruits from Spain as their league doesn't start for another 2 weeks and tends to be played at an even slower tempo.

[SamTheMouse]

We didn't play direct balls in the first half hour. They tied badly and went long. Gueye and Veretout can clearly party but both look like they are 4-5 games from match fitness.

Well my short-term memory must be buggered! I was sure Clark and Westwood started punting long balls towards the edge of their box within the first ten minutes. I remember remarking that it looked very deliberate, as if it was something they'd been instructed to do rather than a means of getting rid of the ball under pressure. And it was exactly the same as what they did against Bournemouth, and it didn't work then either, until Gestede came on.

[old man villa fan]

Oh, and Mike Dean is a stone-cold wanker... how that mugging of Richards was not given as a penalty is beyond me... except that it would have been making a call against ManUre and we would not want that now, would we?

He was in an ideal position to see it as well (like 42,000 fans in the ground!).  Rednapp usually comes out with a load of rubbish but I thought his comment was right.  He said that you get pushing and pulling in the area all the time and it is difficult to penalise one player but when a player gets away from another player and then gets pulled back, it has to be a penalty.

[SamTheMouse]

Because half of the team are imported recruits who've only joined in the last 10-12 days and:

the players we've brought in from France would have been training for a league that plays it's first round of fixtures this weekend and operates at a completely different tempo to ours
It will be even harder for the recruits from Spain as their league doesn't start for another 2 weeks and tends to be played at an even slower tempo.

*pedantry alert* The French league started last weekend, same as the BPL.

[avfcpg]

Not downhearted at all. Still seeing glimpses of passing and cohesion that we haven't seen in years. We will get better and we have some great options yet to come (Gil, Jack and Traore for starters). Amavi looked one of the best players on the pitch again tonight.
They are a different Man Yoo this year. Really tight, not adventurous and hard to break down I'm not too hard on us not creating too much. A few need match fitness but when you spend the night closing down and chasing the ball it's going to tire you. I thought Bmth tired second half against us doing the same.
It's still exciting time...give Ayew, Vertoute and Gestede 6 or 7 games...
Don't understand the Sinclair sub...but in Tim we trust. Gestede clearly isn't fit enough to start so he got that right...

[dave.woodhall]

Because half of the team are imported recruits who've only joined in the last 10-12 days and:

the players we've brought in from France would have been training for a league that plays it's first round of fixtures this weekend and operates at a completely different tempo to ours
It will be even harder for the recruits from Spain as their league doesn't start for another 2 weeks and tends to be played at an even slower tempo.

*pedantry alert* The French league started last weekend, same as the BPL.

What's the BPL?