Jordan Ayew - sold to Swansea

[Clampy]

He needs a goal, like Gestede to get him going and put a bit of confidence into him

I said that the other day. He'll be fine once he settles down and get's a goal under his belt.

[john e]

He needs a goal, like Gestede to get him going and put a bit of confidence into him

I said that the other day. He'll be fine once he settles down and get's a goal under his belt.

Agreed
The fans also need confidence in the strikers, look at how we all think about Gestede after scoring the winner last week,
 if it had been Ayew we would probably all think the same about him instead,
a goal or two breeds confidence on and of the pitch

I'm sure it will come, Sherwood obviously fancies him as he's started him in both league games and we all know how important players look in training to Sherwood so he must be doing something to impress him

[Pete3206]

The problem with Ayew jnr is that he looks like he's trying too hard and having to carve out chances for himself. Ayew snr has had 2 matches where chances have been almost put on a plate for him. With the likes of Traore, Gil and Grealish to come in, I believe that Ayew will get more chances to do things in the penalty area and not have to play so deep.

[ktvillan]

Early days for the lad.  Not sure what his best position is or is he's currently playing in it, but right now he reminds me of watching Weimann.  Lots of movement with a good intentions, but control lets him down and and he seems anxious, trying a bit too hard and lacking in composure.  I'd hoped Weimann would have that lack of composure coached out of him , but sadly it didn't happen.  Hopefully with Ayew it's just a confidence and settling in thing.

[brontebilly]

The problem with Ayew jnr is that he looks like he's trying too hard and having to carve out chances for himself. Ayew snr has had 2 matches where chances have been almost put on a plate for him. With the likes of Traore, Gil and Grealish to come in, I believe that Ayew will get more chances to do things in the penalty area and not have to play so deep.

Ayew Snr looks a far more polished player so far, touch, movement etc

The reports from France suggested that we have overpaid for Jordan based on his career to date.

Hopefully our scouts have spotted something else in him but he looks incredibly limited from the evidence of the first two games.

[Axl Rose]

I guess the other thing to factor in is these young lads have been plucked out of a foreign country and rapidly deployed to the Midlands, are probably living in hotels etc so aswell as adjusting to the PL they have all the other domestic crap to deal with. It's going to take time.

But you said that he looks a poor signing. Make your mind up.

Yes, make up your mind!!! haha

[PaulWinch again]

Well given he's older he's likely to be more polished. I know there are some exceptions, but generally players get better the more experienced they become.

[KRS]

If the Ayew brothers have a good relationship then I'd like to think that they will naturally encourage and compete against each other. Both are forwards and both will naturally have that hunger to score goals, so I'd be surprised if they didn't have that desire to be better than each other.

[silhillvilla]

I guess the other thing to factor in is these young lads have been plucked out of a foreign country and rapidly deployed to the Midlands, are probably living in hotels etc so aswell as adjusting to the PL they have all the other domestic crap to deal with. It's going to take time.

But you said that he looks a poor signing. Make your mind up.

Yes, make up your mind!!! haha

He looks a poor signing but should be given time to prove all doubters wrong.

[pauliewalnuts]

I guess the other thing to factor in is these young lads have been plucked out of a foreign country and rapidly deployed to the Midlands, are probably living in hotels etc so aswell as adjusting to the PL they have all the other domestic crap to deal with. It's going to take time.

But you said that he looks a poor signing. Make your mind up.

Yes, make up your mind!!! haha

He looks a poor signing but should be given time to prove all doubters wrong.

He looks a poor signing.

After two matches?

But should be given time to prove doubters wrong? Talk about hedging your bets.

Give him a chance FFS. And "he looks a poor signing" isn't giving him a chance even if you do try to shrug it off with "should be given time to prove doubters wrong".

How about just giving him the time now rather than judging him as a poor signing at all?

Why on earth do you dig yourself into these holes? It's like you just can't fully suppress the urge to be miserable about everything. Even when you're saying someone needs time, you have to get it out and splurge some nonsense about how he looks shit.

[Villafirst]

Far too early to judge him. He came in so late with no real pre - season as such which goes for the others. He had a poor first season at Loriente but save them from the drop with his goals a year later. The guy has ability but could do with some decent service.

[Toronto Villa]

I guess the other thing to factor in is these young lads have been plucked out of a foreign country and rapidly deployed to the Midlands, are probably living in hotels etc so aswell as adjusting to the PL they have all the other domestic crap to deal with. It's going to take time.

But you said that he looks a poor signing. Make your mind up.

Yes, make up your mind!!! haha

He looks a poor signing but should be given time to prove all doubters wrong.

He looks a poor signing.

After two matches?

But should be given time to prove doubters wrong? Talk about hedging your bets.

Give him a chance FFS. And "he looks a poor signing" isn't giving him a chance even if you do try to shrug it off with "should be given time to prove doubters wrong".

How about just giving him the time now rather than judging him as a poor signing at all?

Why on earth do you dig yourself into these holes? It's like you just can't fully suppress the urge to be miserable about everything. Even when you're saying someone needs time, you have to get it out and splurge some nonsense about how he looks shit.

It's like he has Tourette's where he sees something Villa related and blurts out "it's shit" without even knowing he did it.

[silhillvilla]

It's an opinion, in the same way Ive said I think Richards and Amavi look great signings. Think I've said the same about Gueye.

[Villa in Denmark]

It's an opinion, in the same way Ive said I think Richards and Amavi look great signings. Think I've said the same about Gueye.

But it's the way you phrase it that makes people laugh/pisses people off (delete as appropriate)

You said "he looks like a poor signing" which, regardless of how many caveats you apply afterwards about should be given time etc. comes across as unremittingly negative and dismissive.

If you'd said something along the lines of
"He hasn't shown too much from what I've seen but it's still early days so hopefully he'll come good", it's expressing pretty much the same sentiment, but without the overriding sense of "we're all doomed" you frequently convey and avoiding the apparent disconnect between your two statements.

[silhillvilla]

Ok ViD noted. I will try and use my words better.