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Author Topic: Jordan Ayew - sold to Swansea  (Read 204525 times)

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Jordan Ayew
« Reply #360 on: July 26, 2015, 03:15:20 PM »
This coming season we will be known as .........L`aston Villair

As long as it leads to Villa being on the French Riviera by the start of April.

Offline The Laughing Policeman

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Re: Jordan Ayew
« Reply #361 on: July 26, 2015, 03:31:53 PM »
The reason we're signing all of these French players could be down to them mistakenly thinking they're going to join this well known French rock band.


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Re: Jordan Ayew
« Reply #362 on: July 26, 2015, 03:32:20 PM »

Stop confusing race with season.  If you miss the start of a race you're out of it and can't enter, if you miss the first race of a 38 race season you're just reducing your potential winnings a little.

Put it this way would you rather spend £10m on a striker today who gets 10-12 in 38 or wait a few weeks and get one who scores 15-18 in 35 (like Benteke did for us in his first season) and which of those scenarios will result in a higher league position?

It's a gamble either way but I don't want the manager to settle for what he can get rather than wait for what he wants, settling for lesser quality isn't an option this year, quality is much more important than numbers for us, we have  abig squad, it's just not got the proven top half quality we want in it.

Race or season, if you get left in the blocks it's a harder job to catch up.  You're not just risking reducing your winnings, you're risking relegation, and losing a huge amount.  Getting your business done early does not necessarily entail buying an inferior product, and doing it later doesn't mean you'll get a superior product.  It might work that way, conversely it might be that the longer it goes on the more a selling club can hold you ransom knowing how desperate you are for a new player.   There is a time constraint that does not apply to most buyers at auctions, and in any case I don't think the transfer window is really like an auction.  A lot of transfers do not involve bidding wars, simply negotiations in the background that might break down, drag on or get concluded.   For example I didn't notice many rival bidders for Benteke, Delph, Milner, Clyne and a few others that have moved.  If you do your preparation and spadework early, I don't see why you can't sign the bulk of the quality you want and need early in the window. I would have thought that when you have just finished 17th and then lost your best 2 players, hanging about to potentially save a few bob whilst putting the massive TV income at greater risk makes little sense.  We still have time before the season starts, so no major panic, but I'd rather new signings were able to do a full pre-season  with us.     

Offline amfy

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Re: Jordan Ayew
« Reply #363 on: July 26, 2015, 03:49:31 PM »
Not to save a few bob, to get the right player.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Jordan Ayew
« Reply #364 on: July 26, 2015, 04:39:41 PM »
might be off again, apparently due to us baulking at huge agent/signing on fees

Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Jordan Ayew
« Reply #365 on: July 26, 2015, 04:44:52 PM »
he'll sign.

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Jordan Ayew
« Reply #366 on: July 26, 2015, 04:45:18 PM »
might be off again, apparently due to us baulking at huge agent/signing on fees
Odd as we've already got 2 deals over the line with this agent .

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Re: Jordan Ayew
« Reply #367 on: July 26, 2015, 04:56:46 PM »

Stop confusing race with season.  If you miss the start of a race you're out of it and can't enter, if you miss the first race of a 38 race season you're just reducing your potential winnings a little.

Put it this way would you rather spend £10m on a striker today who gets 10-12 in 38 or wait a few weeks and get one who scores 15-18 in 35 (like Benteke did for us in his first season) and which of those scenarios will result in a higher league position?

It's a gamble either way but I don't want the manager to settle for what he can get rather than wait for what he wants, settling for lesser quality isn't an option this year, quality is much more important than numbers for us, we have  abig squad, it's just not got the proven top half quality we want in it.

Race or season, if you get left in the blocks it's a harder job to catch up.  You're not just risking reducing your winnings, you're risking relegation, and losing a huge amount.  Getting your business done early does not necessarily entail buying an inferior product, and doing it later doesn't mean you'll get a superior product.  It might work that way, conversely it might be that the longer it goes on the more a selling club can hold you ransom knowing how desperate you are for a new player.   There is a time constraint that does not apply to most buyers at auctions, and in any case I don't think the transfer window is really like an auction.  A lot of transfers do not involve bidding wars, simply negotiations in the background that might break down, drag on or get concluded.   For example I didn't notice many rival bidders for Benteke, Delph, Milner, Clyne and a few others that have moved.  If you do your preparation and spadework early, I don't see why you can't sign the bulk of the quality you want and need early in the window. I would have thought that when you have just finished 17th and then lost your best 2 players, hanging about to potentially save a few bob whilst putting the massive TV income at greater risk makes little sense.  We still have time before the season starts, so no major panic, but I'd rather new signings were able to do a full pre-season  with us.  
And how many times does it happen that a club has got all their signings In for the start of a season, let alone pre-season?

Everything that is happening suggests that Sherwood has a plan and is working to get the players he wants in.

And it's not about saving a few bob, it's about not overpaying for tat, if you think you can pick up someone better, within your budget, a bit further down the line.

Offline Diablo

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Re: Jordan Ayew
« Reply #368 on: July 26, 2015, 05:00:02 PM »
might be off again, apparently due to us baulking at huge agent/signing on fees

Where has this information come from?

Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Jordan Ayew
« Reply #369 on: July 26, 2015, 05:09:45 PM »
might be off again, apparently due to us baulking at huge agent/signing on fees

Where has this information come from?


My money's on Silhilvilla.

Offline Villafirst

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Re: Jordan Ayew
« Reply #370 on: July 26, 2015, 05:12:28 PM »
Fee is now agreed apparently - can't believe Ayew will allow his Agent's greed to now scupper the deal?

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Jordan Ayew
« Reply #371 on: July 26, 2015, 05:14:26 PM »
It'll go through now I'm certain

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Jordan Ayew
« Reply #372 on: July 26, 2015, 05:20:57 PM »
the 'story' was run by Quest France. TBH there's so much bullshit surrounding this one I'm taking everything with a pinch of salt. Most of these people don't know their onions from their shallots.

Offline newtonsballs

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Re: Jordan Ayew
« Reply #373 on: July 26, 2015, 05:31:46 PM »
the 'story' was run by Quest France. TBH there's so much bullshit surrounding this one I'm taking everything with a pinch of salt. Most of these people don't know their onions from their shallots.

Perhaps it was a leek :)

Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Jordan Ayew
« Reply #374 on: July 26, 2015, 05:34:12 PM »
It's happening. Deal agreed.

 


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