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Offline Nelson Lodge

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Re: Your worst ever Villa player
« Reply #120 on: August 11, 2015, 11:20:43 AM »
So many poor ones especially in the decline and fall of the 60s. One contender has to be Tony Scott, a winger bought from West Ham in 1965. No matter how bad the pitch and weather conditions were he managed to come off at the end with his kit in a pristine state and not a hair out of place!

Dick Edwards was another one who did not like getting stuck in to the opposition, at least until Docherty arrived. Dave Pountney was a defender of limited ability - he had a habit, if he was caught out of position, of catching the ball if it was sailing over his head!

I don't recall Bobby Park being that bad and he certainly had some skill. We have to remember the context and times they played in. On one occasion, before substitutes were allowed, he broke a collar bone but played on with the affected arm strapped up in a sling.

Warren Aspinall has been mentioned more than once.  He scored twice in a 2-0 win over the Tesco bags at their place in September 1986. Any player who helps put that lot in their place deserves some credit in my book.


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Re: Your worst ever Villa player
« Reply #121 on: August 11, 2015, 11:25:29 AM »
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Warren Aspinall has been mentioned more than once.  He scored twice in a 2-0 win over the Tesco bags at their place in September 1986. Any player who helps put that lot in their place deserves some credit in my book

He didn't join us until 1987 did he?

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Re: Your worst ever Villa player
« Reply #122 on: August 11, 2015, 11:33:38 AM »
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Warren Aspinall has been mentioned more than once.  He scored twice in a 2-0 win over the Tesco bags at their place in September 1986. Any player who helps put that lot in their place deserves some credit in my book

He didn't join us until 1987 did he?
It was Sept 87 when Aspinall got 2 at the Baggies, he was signed by McNeil the previous February

Offline Nelson Lodge

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Re: Your worst ever Villa player
« Reply #123 on: August 11, 2015, 11:48:42 AM »
Yes it was in 1987.

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Re: Your worst ever Villa player
« Reply #124 on: August 11, 2015, 11:58:17 AM »
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Warren Aspinall has been mentioned more than once.  He scored twice in a 2-0 win over the Tesco bags at their place in September 1986. Any player who helps put that lot in their place deserves some credit in my book

He didn't join us until 1987 did he?
It was Sept 87 when Aspinall got 2 at the Baggies, he was signed by McNeil the previous February

And with respect to Mr Aspinall, if I were up against George Reilly that night I'd have scored 2 also.

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Re: Your worst ever Villa player
« Reply #125 on: August 11, 2015, 12:00:16 PM »
Talent wise - Bernie Gallagher.

Over rated and annoyance wise - Stephen Ireland.

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Re: Your worst ever Villa player
« Reply #126 on: August 11, 2015, 12:46:42 PM »
Some people have mentioned Kapengwe ands Mwila.
They both were star performers in Villa's North American Tour of 1969 playing for Atlanta Chiefs, and on the strength of that, when Villa were struggling and adrift at the foot of the table, Docherty brought them over as a desperate measure.
They were both Zambian internationals, Kapengwe was a bull of a man, very strong and direct, and played in the 1-0 win over Carlilse at Villa Park, and in the next game against Blackpool, a 0-0 draw, they both played but Mwila looked completely out of his depth.
I seem to remember it was hammering down with rain and skill was not required, more brute force.
Felt a bit sorry for them both, Kapengwe was  tryer but Mwila was struggling to even make the reserve team and they both went back to the States.
Oscar Arce was a product of the day, an exotic South American ball-juggling maestro who literally turned up at Villa Park one day and asked for a trial. The reality was he was without a club after being released in his native Argentina, and married a Scottish girl and was running an antique shop in Dundee!
He claimed to be an Argentinian international but no records ever backed that up, Villa's success-starved officials simply believed all this bullshit and good old Oscar found himself as a professional footballer and adulation that was entirely unworthy of his skills!
He got sent off (or replaced to stop him being sent off) when Bedford's finest kicked him a few too may times and he reacted by spitting at them in a pre season friendly, then broke his leg in a reserve game at Coventry, and Oscar was never to be seen again.
His brother was actually a better player, who played a few games as an amatuer.
Along with Ivo Stas, he's probably the most unknown Villa player, but the worst I'm not sure, it's a close one.

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Re: Your worst ever Villa player
« Reply #127 on: August 11, 2015, 01:23:59 PM »
Tony Scott either scored the first goal or supplied the cross for whoever scored it in that epic Third Division home game against Bournemouth where the crowd was 48,000, IIRC.

Dave Poutney I've mentioned on here before as being somewhat poor.  What I also remember about him was that he had legs the colour of milk bottles.

I never though Dick Edwards lacked courage, finesse yes, but not courage.  A nice man, I met him once in Sutton Park.  Not long after that, we played Bury away and the ball went out for a throw by where we were standing.  Dick came over to collect the ball and take the throw and he recognised me and gave me a wink.  I was on cloud nine.

Bobby Park was Marmite.  You either did or you didn't.  I was in the didn't camp.  He was definitely a trier so he should be remembered and commended for that.  I remember that match where he broke his collar bone but, can't remember the opposition.

Two more that can be added to the list:  Dave Roberts, a winger with no courage at all, he seemed to be frightened of the ball let alone opponents.

I think this bloke's name was Grahame Parker, Parker was definitely correct.  A wing half/midfielder, played in the same era as Bobby Park.  A headless chicken.

Oscar.  I was at that Bedford match pre-season friendly.  I've posted previously that that was as low as it ever got for me.  No matter what has happened since, being beaten by a fucking pub team when we had a near full strength team out was both demoralising and disgraceful.

Offline Nelson Lodge

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Re: Your worst ever Villa player
« Reply #128 on: August 11, 2015, 01:42:02 PM »
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Warren Aspinall has been mentioned more than once.  He scored twice in a 2-0 win over the Tesco bags at their place in September 1986. Any player who helps put that lot in their place deserves some credit in my book

He didn't join us until 1987 did he?
It was Sept 87 when Aspinall got 2 at the Baggies, he was signed by McNeil the previous February

And with respect to Mr Aspinall, if I were up against George Reilly that night I'd have scored 2 also.
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Warren Aspinall has been mentioned more than once.  He scored twice in a 2-0 win over the Tesco bags at their place in September 1986. Any player who helps put that lot in their place deserves some credit in my book

He didn't join us until 1987 did he?
It was Sept 87 when Aspinall got 2 at the Baggies, he was signed by McNeil the previous February

And with respect to Mr Aspinall, if I were up against George Reilly that night I'd have scored 2 also.
I am certain George Reilly was a striker cum centre forward. So why would he be marking Aspinall? Looked on 11v11 which gives the Villa team but not WBAs.

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Your worst ever Villa player
« Reply #129 on: August 11, 2015, 01:49:01 PM »
Reilly was a centre forward - played under Taylor at Watford, scored the winning goal in their cup semi final at Villa Park. Against Plymouth?

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Re: Your worst ever Villa player
« Reply #130 on: August 11, 2015, 06:52:23 PM »
Tony Scott either scored the first goal or supplied the cross for whoever scored it in that epic Third Division home game against Bournemouth where the crowd was 48,000, IIRC.

Tony Scott in the No.11 shirt, Ted McDougalls diving header.

https://youtu.be/DUBREZlitK0

Offline Ron Manager

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Re: Your worst ever Villa player
« Reply #131 on: August 11, 2015, 07:04:53 PM »
So many poor ones especially in the decline and fall of the 60s. One contender has to be Tony Scott, a winger bought from West Ham in 1965. No matter how bad the pitch and weather conditions were he managed to come off at the end with his kit in a pristine state and not a hair out of place!

Dick Edwards was another one who did not like getting stuck in to the opposition, at least until Docherty arrived. Dave Pountney was a defender of limited ability - he had a habit, if he was caught out of position, of catching the ball if it was sailing over his head!

I don't recall Bobby Park being that bad and he certainly had some skill. We have to remember the context and times they played in. On one occasion, before substitutes were allowed, he broke a collar bone but played on with the affected arm strapped up in a sling.

Warren Aspinall has been mentioned more than once.  He scored twice in a 2-0 win over the Tesco bags at their place in September 1986. Any player who helps put that lot in their place deserves some credit in my book.

Your memory must be failing Nelson. Dave Pountney was a wing half! Probably Slogger and Lew Chatterley were the central defenders. Bobby Park had one very good game but was generally useless.

Offline Ron Manager

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Re: Your worst ever Villa player
« Reply #132 on: August 11, 2015, 07:12:10 PM »
Tony Scott either scored the first goal or supplied the cross for whoever scored it in that epic Third Division home game against Bournemouth where the crowd was 48,000, IIRC.

Dave Poutney I've mentioned on here before as being somewhat poor.  What I also remember about him was that he had legs the colour of milk bottles.

I never though Dick Edwards lacked courage, finesse yes, but not courage.  A nice man, I met him once in Sutton Park.  Not long after that, we played Bury away and the ball went out for a throw by where we were standing.  Dick came over to collect the ball and take the throw and he recognised me and gave me a wink.  I was on cloud nine.

Bobby Park was Marmite.  You either did or you didn't.  I was in the didn't camp.  He was definitely a trier so he should be remembered and commended for that.  I remember that match where he broke his collar bone but, can't remember the opposition.

Two more that can be added to the list:  Dave Roberts, a winger with no courage at all, he seemed to be frightened of the ball let alone opponents.

I think this bloke's name was Grahame Parker, Parker was definitely correct.  A wing half/midfielder, played in the same era as Bobby Park.  A headless chicken.

Oscar.  I was at that Bedford match pre-season friendly.  I've posted previously that that was as low as it ever got for me.  No matter what has happened since, being beaten by a fucking pub team when we had a near full strength team out was both demoralising and disgraceful.

Not often I disagree with you Dave but I liked Dave Roberts. He had skill and could beat a bloke with ease. Went on to play a great number of games for Shrewsbury when he left us. I think Dave Pountney went there as well. Ran a sports shop in Shrewsbury after he finished.I assume he has retired now.

Salopian Sports  Still owned by Dave Pountney in Shrewsbury.
« Last Edit: August 11, 2015, 07:16:27 PM by Ron Manager »

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Re: Your worst ever Villa player
« Reply #133 on: August 11, 2015, 07:22:12 PM »
I think Dave Pountney went there as well. Ran a sports shop in Shrewsbury after he finished.I assume he has retired now.

Salopian Sports  Still owned by Dave Pountney in Shrewsbury.


Offline Ron Manager

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Re: Your worst ever Villa player
« Reply #134 on: August 11, 2015, 07:26:42 PM »
I think Dave Pountney went there as well. Ran a sports shop in Shrewsbury after he finished.I assume he has retired now.

Salopian Sports  Still owned by Dave Pountney in Shrewsbury.



Thanks Andy I will look it up next time I'm in Shrewsbury. Wholehearted player was Dave.

 


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