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Offline Chris Jameson

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #120 on: July 19, 2015, 02:06:37 PM »
I've noticed so many people who complain about SKY 'killing' or 'ruining' various sports and are 'anti modern football' also happens to subscribe to it. Surely if they feel that strongly they wouldn't subscribe?

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #121 on: July 19, 2015, 02:07:16 PM »
Are Cliff Lazarenko and Bill Werbeniuk still top player?

Are they still alive would be my question.

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #122 on: July 19, 2015, 02:42:36 PM »
I've been a fan since my dad took me back in 1969. I can't honestly remember a worse season in that time culminating in the worst week ever.  We've had the Clubs worse manager with the worst players except two who have both left in the same week, one of which has made a laughing stock of us. We have a new player who loved his previous club that much he advised our best player to join them. We have an owner who wants out and is dragging the club down hill to a position where we are now no better than Stoke or Sunderland. So yes, I wonder what is the point? I can't see any way out of this mess

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #123 on: July 19, 2015, 02:51:04 PM »
As disappointing as it is, buying players for 7mil and selling for 33mil should be exactly what we are about right now. Southampton have shown that providing you reinvest well, this is how you can grow and develop a top 10 side.

Allowing Delph to get get to having just 6 months left on his contract is just piss poor management.

 

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #124 on: July 19, 2015, 02:51:40 PM »
I've noticed so many people who complain about SKY 'killing' or 'ruining' various sports and are 'anti modern football' also happens to subscribe to it. Surely if they feel that strongly they wouldn't subscribe?

I don't, and haven't for years, so I reckon I can say it.

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #125 on: July 19, 2015, 02:54:36 PM »
As disappointing as it is, buying players for 7mil and selling for 33mil should be exactly what we are about right now. Southampton have shown that providing you reinvest well, this is how you can grow and develop a top 10 side.

Allowing Delph to get get to having just 6 months left on his contract is just piss poor management.

 

it will be interesting to see how Southampton get on this season having sold 2-3 more. I cant help but think it will bite them in the arse sooner or later. I cant help thinking the same about the Villa too.

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #126 on: July 19, 2015, 02:57:11 PM »
Cliff Lazarenko is still alive.  Bill Werbeniuk sadly died during the running of his 17th Marathon in January 2003.

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #127 on: July 19, 2015, 02:59:22 PM »
Cliff Lazarenko is still alive.  Bill Werbeniuk sadly died during the running of his 17th Marathon in January 2003.

Have you been looking at wikipaedia as well?

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #128 on: July 19, 2015, 03:10:28 PM »
I've noticed so many people who complain about SKY 'killing' or 'ruining' various sports and are 'anti modern football' also happens to subscribe to it. Surely if they feel that strongly they wouldn't subscribe?

I don't, and haven't for years, so I reckon I can say it.

Of course, I didn't say everybody.

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #129 on: July 19, 2015, 03:36:26 PM »
As disappointing as it is, buying players for 7mil and selling for 33mil should be exactly what we are about right now. Southampton have shown that providing you reinvest well, this is how you can grow and develop a top 10 side.

Allowing Delph to get get to having just 6 months left on his contract is just piss poor management.

What's the point of a four and half year contract with an £8m get out clause for a current England international? That is surely totally crap management by Fox, unless there are things the club aren't telling the fans.

Contracts would seem to be meaningless for clubs like Villa, as when the mega bucks clubs want a player they just unsettle other club's players with media talk, dressing room chats (Delph/Hart) undermining any loyalty there might be.

At least Benteke had a realistic release clause value, but Delph's was bloody appalling. We have paid more for his replacement who has yet to prove himself in the Premiership.

Delph's turnaround after his first refusal to join City was piss poor PR by whoever drafted his press release for changing his mind again. He will deserve all the flack he'll get when he returns to B6. If he'd gone initially, was bad enough, but the farce that followed doesn't give him any latitude from Villa supporters in my opinion.

All Villa seem to be is a hunting ground for the money clubs to pick off players when they have proved themselves. With Benteke, Delph, Cleverley and Vlaar? gone, plus the ones we wanted shut of, Sherwood has a great opportunity to prove himself and I hope he can do so and stick two fingers up to the deserters.

Being in Portugal last week, I saw the game against Braga and we badly need a goal scorer as our usual weaknesses remain, hopefully Kozak will come good but he needs better support then Gabby.

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #130 on: July 19, 2015, 05:35:59 PM »
We desperately need a season free of a relegation battle to raise the morale. It's 5 years on the bounce now and it grinds people down. The home form doesn't help either.

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #131 on: July 19, 2015, 05:37:51 PM »
As disappointing as it is, buying players for 7mil and selling for 33mil should be exactly what we are about right now. Southampton have shown that providing you reinvest well, this is how you can grow and develop a top 10 side.

Allowing Delph to get get to having just 6 months left on his contract is just piss poor management.

What's the point of a four and half year contract with an £8m get out clause for a current England international? That is surely totally crap management by Fox, unless there are things the club aren't telling the fans.

Contracts would seem to be meaningless for clubs like Villa, as when the mega bucks clubs want a player they just unsettle other club's players with media talk, dressing room chats (Delph/Hart) undermining any loyalty there might be.

At least Benteke had a realistic release clause value, but Delph's was bloody appalling. We have paid more for his replacement who has yet to prove himself in the Premiership.

Delph's turnaround after his first refusal to join City was piss poor PR by whoever drafted his press release for changing his mind again. He will deserve all the flack he'll get when he returns to B6. If he'd gone initially, was bad enough, but the farce that followed doesn't give him any latitude from Villa supporters in my opinion.

All Villa seem to be is a hunting ground for the money clubs to pick off players when they have proved themselves. With Benteke, Delph, Cleverley and Vlaar? gone, plus the ones we wanted shut of, Sherwood has a great opportunity to prove himself and I hope he can do so and stick two fingers up to the deserters.

Being in Portugal last week, I saw the game against Braga and we badly need a goal scorer as our usual weaknesses remain, hopefully Kozak will come good but he needs better support then Gabby.

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I think Delph is responsible for his own actions. Others might have tried to advise but ultimately it's down to him.

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #132 on: July 19, 2015, 08:23:43 PM »
As disappointing as it is, buying players for 7mil and selling for 33mil should be exactly what we are about right now. Southampton have shown that providing you reinvest well, this is how you can grow and develop a top 10 side.

Allowing Delph to get get to having just 6 months left on his contract is just piss poor management.

What's the point of a four and half year contract with an £8m get out clause for a current England international? That is surely totally crap management by Fox, unless there are things the club aren't telling the fans.

Contracts would seem to be meaningless for clubs like Villa, as when the mega bucks clubs want a player they just unsettle other club's players with media talk, dressing room chats (Delph/Hart) undermining any loyalty there might be.

At least Benteke had a realistic release clause value, but Delph's was bloody appalling. We have paid more for his replacement who has yet to prove himself in the Premiership.

Delph's turnaround after his first refusal to join City was piss poor PR by whoever drafted his press release for changing his mind again. He will deserve all the flack he'll get when he returns to B6. If he'd gone initially, was bad enough, but the farce that followed doesn't give him any latitude from Villa supporters in my opinion.

All Villa seem to be is a hunting ground for the money clubs to pick off players when they have proved themselves. With Benteke, Delph, Cleverley and Vlaar? gone, plus the ones we wanted shut of, Sherwood has a great opportunity to prove himself and I hope he can do so and stick two fingers up to the deserters.

Being in Portugal last week, I saw the game against Braga and we badly need a goal scorer as our usual weaknesses remain, hopefully Kozak will come good but he needs better support then Gabby.

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I don't think you can really blame fox for the 8mil release clause. He had 5 months to go on his current contract and Delph held all the cards. We were going through some bad times and him signing the new deal was a welcome boost.

However, the fact they didn't manage to get him to sign a new deal when he had 2 years / 18 months left is disappointing

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #133 on: July 19, 2015, 08:37:35 PM »
As disappointing as it is, buying players for 7mil and selling for 33mil should be exactly what we are about right now. Southampton have shown that providing you reinvest well, this is how you can grow and develop a top 10 side.

Allowing Delph to get get to having just 6 months left on his contract is just piss poor management.

What's the point of a four and half year contract with an £8m get out clause for a current England international? That is surely totally crap management by Fox, unless there are things the club aren't telling the fans.

Contracts would seem to be meaningless for clubs like Villa, as when the mega bucks clubs want a player they just unsettle other club's players with media talk, dressing room chats (Delph/Hart) undermining any loyalty there might be.

At least Benteke had a realistic release clause value, but Delph's was bloody appalling. We have paid more for his replacement who has yet to prove himself in the Premiership.

Delph's turnaround after his first refusal to join City was piss poor PR by whoever drafted his press release for changing his mind again. He will deserve all the flack he'll get when he returns to B6. If he'd gone initially, was bad enough, but the farce that followed doesn't give him any latitude from Villa supporters in my opinion.

All Villa seem to be is a hunting ground for the money clubs to pick off players when they have proved themselves. With Benteke, Delph, Cleverley and Vlaar? gone, plus the ones we wanted shut of, Sherwood has a great opportunity to prove himself and I hope he can do so and stick two fingers up to the deserters.

Being in Portugal last week, I saw the game against Braga and we badly need a goal scorer as our usual weaknesses remain, hopefully Kozak will come good but he needs better support then Gabby.

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I don't think you can really blame fox for the 8mil release clause. He had 5 months to go on his current contract and Delph held all the cards. We were going through some bad times and him signing the new deal was a welcome boost.

However, the fact they didn't manage to get him to sign a new deal when he had 2 years / 18 months left is disappointing
The rumours last summer were that he was desperate to sign a new contract with only 12 months left (and having only shown 6 months of form in the 5? years he'd been with us) That's the point at which we really f¤¤ked up. You might even have gotten him on pretty much the same terms after he'd had a big rise under Houllier

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #134 on: July 20, 2015, 12:33:29 PM »
And of course with the mighty Freeview who needs Sky? ;)

 


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