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Author Topic: Whats the point ?  (Read 16474 times)

Offline *shellac*

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #90 on: July 18, 2015, 11:08:25 AM »
I've lost faith in football.

Dirty cash. Money talks.

Loyalty? He can stuff that up his arse and only brings out to admire when he's on the bench.

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #91 on: July 18, 2015, 11:35:07 AM »
Going to cancel sky . That will help the healing process.

Offline Le Lapin

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #92 on: July 18, 2015, 11:47:11 AM »
We just have to hope that when Benteke goes next week that it will the lowest point for the club. When he is gone we look forward and with the loss of Delph it will be last of the O Neill links gone from the club and the last of the poison of the post MON era. That's all we can do is hope that the club learn from this and don't leave ourselves exposed like this ever again. UTV

Offline villa `cross the mersey

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #93 on: July 18, 2015, 11:53:18 AM »
To be honest I find the whole game pretty boring now. I don't really watch anything outside Villa games and major international tournaments. If it wasn't the fact that I've supported Villa for years I don't think I'd have much interest now. It's anticompetetive and just a case of whoever has the most money wins. The disdain of the media for any club outside the European elite is also disgraceful.

I am with you on this Paul - Its the hype of the so called "big clubs" by SKY and Talkshite that drives me mad - yesterday the Villa were literally a laughing stock, almost akin to the days when were referred to as "Aston Vanilla - the team anyone can lick" Our stock has really fallen - I can take good hearted jokes but its the mocking i find difficult. I dont subscribe to SKY and will lock out of Talkshite going forward.
I always thought that football would eat itself at some point - once money became the overall driving factor it was inevitable. I was put off football back in the day when Kevin Keegan signed for Newcastle on £2K a week -  The figures quoted now are ****ing immoral - I just cant identify with the game anymore - even VCTM jnr is turning away from the game - its something when the highlight to Villa Park or Birmingham is the pre match balti pie or post match trip to Ladypool Road for a Balti.

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #94 on: July 18, 2015, 11:53:30 AM »
We might aswell fuck Gabby and Zog off too if we are having a new start.

Online tomd2103

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #95 on: July 18, 2015, 11:58:08 AM »
Maybe the answer is in the NFL where they have a draft picks system.   Not sure how it would work but certainly the principle is a good one.

and a proper salary (transfer) cap to keep clubs from hoovering up all the most expensive players.

An imposed salary cap will just see players leaving to leagues that don't have one.  MLS and other leagues would see their opportunity and players would just chase the money elsewhere.

Offline Jimbo

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #96 on: July 18, 2015, 11:59:57 AM »
We might aswell fuck Gabby and Zog off too if we are having a new start.

They should have been the first out the door.

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #97 on: July 18, 2015, 12:01:10 PM »
I think this is the final straw, Villa are my team , I can not change that but I hate what is happening to the game and our club.
It is an absoloute disgrace and Delph ought to be ashamed of himself.

I will do my best to try and eradicate football from my life.

Fuck em

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #98 on: July 18, 2015, 12:01:20 PM »
Maybe the answer is in the NFL where they have a draft picks system.   Not sure how it would work but certainly the principle is a good one.

and a proper salary (transfer) cap to keep clubs from hoovering up all the most expensive players.

An imposed salary cap will just see players leaving to leagues that don't have one.  MLS and other leagues would see their opportunity and players would just chase the money elsewhere.

A great reason to have a salary cap then.

Offline robbo1874

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #99 on: July 18, 2015, 12:14:21 PM »
I've thought that for a while mate. They have it in Australia in all the codes and it works pretty well. Admittedly not many afl players would be able to go overseas to another league and even Rugby League overseas options would be limited. But they have it in the 'soccer' A-league and it works fine. The standard's not great, but how many premiership games do we watch that are utter dross?

I think a UEFA wide salary cap could work if it was properly enforced

Offline OzVilla

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #100 on: July 18, 2015, 12:19:04 PM »
The best thing about sport in Australia is the salary cap.

Good coaching and astute recruitment gets rewarded not by the size of the cheque book.

Offline richard moore

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #101 on: July 18, 2015, 12:26:37 PM »
To be honest I find the whole game pretty boring now. I don't really watch anything outside Villa games and major international tournaments. If it wasn't the fact that I've supported Villa for years I don't think I'd have much interest now. It's anticompetetive and just a case of whoever has the most money wins. The disdain of the media for any club outside the European elite is also disgraceful.

I am with you on this Paul - Its the hype of the so called "big clubs" by SKY and Talkshite that drives me mad - yesterday the Villa were literally a laughing stock, almost akin to the days when were referred to as "Aston Vanilla - the team anyone can lick" Our stock has really fallen - I can take good hearted jokes but its the mocking i find difficult. I dont subscribe to SKY and will lock out of Talkshite going forward.
I always thought that football would eat itself at some point - once money became the overall driving factor it was inevitable. I was put off football back in the day when Kevin Keegan signed for Newcastle on £2K a week -  The figures quoted now are ****ing immoral - I just cant identify with the game anymore - even VCTM jnr is turning away from the game - its something when the highlight to Villa Park or Birmingham is the pre match balti pie or post match trip to Ladypool Road for a Balti.

I could not have summed it up any better Clive...and Paul. Exactly my feelings off to a tee. I sit and watch matches these days half in admiration of the fans who still go and half thinking they are just mugs and wondering why the hell they bother to go to matches in a league where you can write out the table on day 1 of the season and be pretty much spot on with how it will all finish. And all this while players like Raheem fucking Stirling earn more in a week than most people on here earn in five years. I, frankly, don't wish to subscribe to being part of that!

Online tomd2103

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #102 on: July 18, 2015, 12:56:16 PM »
The best thing about sport in Australia is the salary cap.

Good coaching and astute recruitment gets rewarded not by the size of the cheque book.

As mentioned, the reason they can have a salary cap is that there aren't many other countries that play the sports they do. 

Offline Rotterdam

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #103 on: July 18, 2015, 01:16:52 PM »
To be honest I find the whole game pretty boring now. I don't really watch anything outside Villa games and major international tournaments. If it wasn't the fact that I've supported Villa for years I don't think I'd have much interest now. It's anticompetetive and just a case of whoever has the most money wins. The disdain of the media for any club outside the European elite is also disgraceful.

I am with you on this Paul - Its the hype of the so called "big clubs" by SKY and Talkshite that drives me mad - yesterday the Villa were literally a laughing stock, almost akin to the days when were referred to as "Aston Vanilla - the team anyone can lick" Our stock has really fallen - I can take good hearted jokes but its the mocking i find difficult. I dont subscribe to SKY and will lock out of Talkshite going forward.
I always thought that football would eat itself at some point - once money became the overall driving factor it was inevitable. I was put off football back in the day when Kevin Keegan signed for Newcastle on £2K a week -  The figures quoted now are ****ing immoral - I just cant identify with the game anymore - even VCTM jnr is turning away from the game - its something when the highlight to Villa Park or Birmingham is the pre match balti pie or post match trip to Ladypool Road for a Balti.

This.

I could not have summed it up any better Clive...and Paul. Exactly my feelings off to a tee. I sit and watch matches these days half in admiration of the fans who still go and half thinking they are just mugs and wondering why the hell they bother to go to matches in a league where you can write out the table on day 1 of the season and be pretty much spot on with how it will all finish. And all this while players like Raheem fucking Stirling earn more in a week than most people on here earn in five years. I, frankly, don't wish to subscribe to being part of that!

Online aj2k77

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Re: Whats the point ?
« Reply #104 on: July 18, 2015, 01:20:42 PM »
The mocking pisses me off too. The media 100% wholeheartedly support what is happening to the English game, but then mourns the repeated failures in major tournaments like a natural disaster whilst it's the system they support and talk up that is making our game suffer.


 


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